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It seems more than coincidence that this Sarah's mother was a Baker

Sarah Ellen Hope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 APR 1836 Mayfield, Sussex, England

. Edward Hope - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 17 NOV 1821 Mayfield, Sussex, England
Sarah Baker
1841
Sarah Allen Hope abt 1836 Sussex, England Mayfield, Sussex

I would like to say a big thank you to all that helped
me in my search for John Ensor Hope Fuller.
I have printed all thease pages.
I am now going to lave a good look at them and see what I come up with.

thanks again
Diane

PS If you find any thing more send mw a message.

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Sarah Ellen Hope
Name: Sarah Ellen Hope
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 10 Apr 1836
Christening Place: Mayfield, Sussex, England
Father's Name: Edward Hope
Mother's Name: Sarah

Mistranscribed means that,somewhere,somebody has made a mistake.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Sarah Ellen Hope
Name: Sarah Ellen Hope
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Brighton
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 246
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Name: Henry Fuller
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Brighton
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 421 Should read 426

So looks like a double mistake 246 or 426 that is the question.
Three names on 246 none on 426 so 246 it is.

In 1864 John Kelly (b:1840), son of Thady, married Honoria Touhy (b:1846) the daughter of Michael Touhy also of Low Island.

make sence to you?

mistake of details....wrong spellings etc..misinterpretation of details..thinking it says one thing when it is really another.

I cant find any reference of a Honoria Touhy
anywhere!

Jim,

What dose it mean when saying mistranscribed.

diane

So..he ran off with Ellen Touhy, Honoria Touhy sister?..Did he marry her also?


1st marriage?

Marriages Mar 1880
Hope Helen Salford 8d 82
Fuller John Ensor H Salford 8d 82

2nd marriage?
Honoria Touhy
John Ensor Hope Fuller

3rd marriage? 1927
Ellen Touhy
John Ensor Hope Fuller.

Yes?....but we not sure 2nd is true?

Diane - I know you cannot find the marriage but something to bear in mind - Just because he said he was a widow does not mean it is true.

marriage mistranscribed
Henry Fuller 1858 Jul-Aug-Sep Brighton Sussex, East
Sarah Ellen Hope

Diane
the christenings are from Ancestry.co

Boogie,
Your making me largh now you really are getting in to it.
It says John Ensor Hope Fuller widow on his 1927 marriage cert and as Honora was surpose to be his second wife and she was still alive in 1927 he must mean his first wife Helen of 1880
So that makes me belive he was not married to Honora at all or he tells lies.

Diane

But im looking at the whole picture..trying to work out what is what and why is why.
I was putting up a possible answer for why it says widow on the marriage cert.
Saying maybe Ellen was a widow..rather than it refering to Honoria. Hence I was looking for a possible reason for Ellen being a widow if possible..and yes she could have been..if that marriage is hers.

aunts uncles...etc...

As i put earlier.

Ok..maybe link is between Hope & Fuller ?

Marriages Dec 1848
FULLER James Brighton 7 494
HOPE Mary Brighton 7 494
Marriages Jun 1852
Fuller Michael Hailsham 2b 91
Hope Frances Hailsham 2b 91
Marriages Jun 1854
Fuller James Steyning 2b 357
HOPE Hannah Steyning 2b 357
Marriages Jun 1858
Hope John William Brown Hastings 2b 33
Fuller Phoebe Priscilla Hastings 2b 33
Marriages Mar 1869
Hope Maria Droitwich 6c 430
FULLER Edward Droitwich 6c 430
Marriages Mar 1873
Hope Jessie Tenterden 2a 796
FULLER Frederick Tenterden 2a 796
Marriages Mar 1880
Hope Helen Salford 8d 82
Fuller John Ensor H Salford 8d 82
Marriages Jun 1904
Hope Elizabeth Sarah Islington 1b 642
Fuller Joseph Islington 1b 642
Marriages Dec 1908
HOPE Ernest Belton H Brighton 2b 406
FULLER Stephen Brighton 2b 406
Marriages Jun 1922
HOPE Elizabeth M Fuller Cranbrook 2a _070


A marriage between a Hope and a Fuller...thats where he took the Fuller from.?..er?..understand what I mean?

I was thinking

Marriages Jun 1858
Hope John William Brown Hastings 2b 33
Fuller Phoebe Priscilla Hastings 2b 33

but there is

Marriages Dec 1848
FULLER James Brighton 7 494
HOPE Mary Brighton 7 494

Thinking one of these maybe his parents marriage

boogie you are confusing me now LOL

We are look for the Fuller/ hope line not the Touhy I know where there all from Ireland.

Diane x

Deaths Mar 1873
WYRE James 48 Birmingham 6d 47

? Possibly Ellen husbands death..so she widow?

Marriages Mar 1860
Wyre James Bolton 8c 381
Touhy Ellen Bolton 8c 381

Marriages Dec 1844
TOUHY Ellen Exeter 10 126
WILSON James Exeter 10 126

Jim I like the late christening one where did you find that one
How can i look at that to see whos names are on it please.

Diane