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I have an Elizabeth Ann Smith who married a Joseph Pearce on 30.09.1856 in Greenwich. According to Census’ she was born about 1836 in Marylebone, London and her husband was born about 1835 in Rodborough, Gloucestershire.

On the Wedding certificate it says her father was a Robert Smith (I haven’t got his occupation to hand at the moment, but I will add it later), but I can not find an Elizabeth Smith with father Robert on census’.

I have put this request on here before and people have suggested he may have died, but how can I be certain?

Can anybody find an Elizabeth Smith or similar name that I might have missed or suggest something that I could try to get through this brick wall!

The children and Elizabeth and Joseph have are:

Henrietta – 1858
Alfred James – 1861
Joseph Robert – 1865
Stephen John – 1867
Elizabeth Ann – 1870
James – 1876

I don’t know whether these names will be a clue to who Elizabeth’s family are,

Thanks for any help given,

Vicky X

Hi Suzanne,

I haven’t got the marriage cert with me at the minute, but I remember that there were no Smith’s as witnesses. Also I have tried the 1841 census and I haven’t found her so far. I don’t know whether her name was wrongly transcribed or maybe I’m not looking in the right place!

Thanks,

Vicky

Have found 2 possibilities on 1851 census, this is first one

Name: Elizabeth Smith
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
Ecclesiastical parish: Long Acre
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: St Martin In The Fields
Sub-registration district: Long Acre
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Canby 33
Marie Cassanelli 19
Harriet Coomber 40
Ann Dalton 44
Ann Nagle 22
Elizabeth Smith 14
Mary Smith 38
Robert Smith 42
Sarah Smith 11
Mary Town 20

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And this one

Name: Elizabeth Smith
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Cripplegate, London, England

Civil Parish: St Vedast
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: London City
Sub-registration district: London City North
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Matilda Cone 49
Frances Kempe 22
Dorcas Russell 35
William Sanford 35
Ann Smith 22
Elizabeth Smith 50
Elizabeth Smith 16
Hannah Smith 11
James Smith 5
Robert Smith 53
Robert Smith 20

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Thanks Laptop Dancer,

I will have a look at the marriage cert when I get home to see what Robert's occ was and to see if I can rule these 2 possibilities out or in.

Thanks for looking for me,

Vicky

Hi, sorry I couldn't get online last night.

According to the wedding cert, Robert Smith was a Labourer (big help I know!)

I've just looked on the census's Laptop Dancer suggested and both Robert Smith's are Stone Masons!


Also, the witnesses on the cert are:

John Pearce (Joseph's father) and
Henrietta Pearce (I don't know who this can be as Joseph didn't have a sister called Henrietta, but named his first daughter this)

I will keep looking!

Thanks,

Vicky