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Certain Kidger family members in Leicester and Nottingham changed their name to KIDDIER. See my posts on KIDDIER

I do know that if the latter day saints are right and we meet four generations of our family when we die,one or two of them are going to have a piece of my mind!!. Anyway off to write some £7 cheques now. Thanks for your help Zoe and Sue.

It's a possiblity these ancestors just like us to be little detectives don't they.........LOL Zoe

Hi Thanks for the marriage find, I've just been on ancestry trying to find Rebeccas and Fred births as suggested, no trace of them either, even thought I know rebeccas birth was Oct 1893 (shes my grandmother). I do know Freds mothers surname was Preston do you suppose he just decided to use it from time to time. Its weird

So it looks like the Preston comes from his name! Zoe

Ruths death Name: Preston, Ruth Kidger Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 27 Quarter: June Year: 1895 District: Shardlow County: Derbyshire Leicestershire Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 253

Well Done Sue didn't think of that DOH! Zoe

2nd marriage Hallam, Sarah Ann 1898 June Marriages Basford Derbyshire Nottinghamshire Preston, Fred Kidger 1898 June Marriages Basford Derbyshire Nottinghamshire Sallis, William 1898 June Marriages Basford Derbyshire Nottinghamshire Walker, Mary Elizabeth 1898 June Marriages Basford Volume: 7b Page: 223 Sue

You're right thats probably better than going down the marriage certificate line. back to ancestry againthen, Thanks for looking Zoe and Nell

Well have looked for the marriage even tried to look for Ruth in previous censues ! Do you not have any of the childrens birth certs as these should clear the matter up! Zoe

Yes Zoe, thats them. I need to know if Ruth or Sarahs maiden name was Preston because when Ruth died, her death was registered as Kidger-Preston and so was the birth of Harry who was born in the quarter just before she died. However you'll see that Harrys name was back to Kidger on the 1901 census. Apparently any subsequent children were named Kidger-Preston (although apprently not on the census) so I have some relatives called Kidger, some called Kidger-Preston and one who justcalled himself Preston and no-one seems to know why!

Hello Zoe, Fred is on the 1901 census, married to his second wife Sarah. Ruth died in 1895. I can't find their marriage either. I particularly want to find both of them, because I believe both wives were related to each other

1901 Is this them? Sarah A is down as 2nd wife! Fred Kidger abt 1865 Penmston, Yorkshire, England Head Stapleford Nottinghamshire Fred Kidger abt 1886 Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Stapleford Nottinghamshire George W Kidger abt 1889 Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Stapleford Nottinghamshire Harry Kidger abt 1895 Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Stapleford Nottinghamshire Mabel Kidger abt 1897 Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Stapleford Nottinghamshire Rebecca Kidger abt 1894 Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Stapleford Nottinghamshire Richard Kidger abt 1899 Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Stapleford Nottinghamshire Ruth Kidger abt 1891 Auddleston, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Stapleford Nottinghamshire Samuel Kidger abt 1900 Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Stapleford Nottinghamshire Sarah A Kidger abt 1876 Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Stapleford Nottinghamshire 1891 Frederick Kidger abt 1864 Crowhedge, Yorkshire, England Head Linthorpe Yorkshire Frederick Kidger abt 1887 North Stapleford, Lincolnshire, England Son Linthorpe Yorkshire George W Kidger abt 1889 North Stapleford, Lincolnshire, England Son Linthorpe Yorkshire Ruth Kidger abt 1868 Sandeaire, Derbyshire, England Wife Linthorpe Yorkshire Ruth E Kidger abt 1891 Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England Daughter Linthorpe Yorkshire

Hi Suzanne Fred and Ruths first child was born in Stapleford in Nottinghamshire, which is probably where they married,

Do you have Fred on the 1901 census? Zoe

Where was Fred and Ruths first child born? Suzanne

Thank Helen, I'll try just using the first name but I'm not hopeful. As for the ancestry civil reg is that actually on the ancestry site. I've just done the looking on every quarter which is laborious if you have ten possible years to go through.

1891 for ref William Orridge abt 1854 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicestershire, England Head Whiston Yorkshire Ellen Orridge abt 1855 Pensensit, Staffordshire, England Wife Whiston Yorkshire Lily M Orridge abt 1890 Whiston, Yorkshire, England Daughter Whiston Yorkshire John T Wilkes abt 1886 Rotherham, Yorkshire, England Stepson Whiston Yorkshire Ellen Wilks abt 1878 Carbrook, Yorkshire, England Stepdaughter Whiston Yorkshire Harry Wilks abt 1879 Brightside, Yorkshire, England Stepson Whiston Yorkshire

1st mystery People missing on a census are often either mistranscribed or just somewhere you don't expect to find them. Have you tried looking using just first name, age and place of birth? nell