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Hi I am trying to find information on one of my rellies who emigrated to Oz. Herbert William Salmon was born 1869 Hampton, Middlesex. He went to Australia where he married Mary H ? She is on the 1901 census which states she was born Sidney, N S Wales. They had a son born 1894 in Sydney named Harold George who was killed in 1917. On the 1901 census the family is back in England with another child, Beyrl who was born in Hampton. I believe they returned to Oz sometime after this date. I would love to get their marriage details and birth details of both Mary and Harold. Can anyone please help? regards gina

Harriette M Dodson was born in Sydney in 1866, parents John S and Rebecca Dodson. Herbert W Salmon married Hanrietta M Dodson (presumably a typo for Henrietta or Harriette) in Woollahra NSW in 1892. Harold G Salmon was born in Hurstville, NSW, in 1893, parents Herbert W and Harrietta M Salmon. http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births

Harold married a girl called Dora according to his service record, but I can't find a marriage for him in the NSW BMD index. His complete 52-page service record is online here: http://www.naa.gov.au/The_Collection/recordsearch.html And there's a bit more information here: http://www.awm.gov.au/find/index.asp

It looks as though Harold and Dora got married in Toowoomba, Queensland, where he enlisted, and had a child. Queensland BMDs are here, but unfortunately they only go up to 1914 so far: http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/bdm/IndexSearch.htm It looks as though Dora may have remarried after Harold died; a Dora Salmon married an Orchard Clark in Tenterfield, NSW in 1921.

Herbert's service record is also online. He and Harold must have enlisted together, because they have consecutive service numbers: SALMON Herbert William : Service Number - 2498 : Place of Birth - Hampton England : Place of Enlistment - Toowoomba QLD : Next of Kin - (Wife) SALMON Harietta May SALMON Harold George : Service Number - 2499 : Place of Birth - Sydney NSW : Place of Enlistment - Toowoomba QLD : Next of Kin - (Wife) SALMON Dora

Found Dora's birth: Dora Ellevsen, parents Henrich Georg Martin Ellevsen and Anna Magdaline Boysen, born 1889. According to Harold's service record, their child was called Harold Ellenson (Ellevsen?) Salmon. He was in the RAAF in WWII, but his service record isn't online yet, just these brief details: SALMON HAROLD ELLEVESEN : Service Number - 6459 : Date of birth - 03 Dec 1915 : Place of birth - TOOWOOMBA QLD : Place of enlistment - RICHMOND NSW : Next of Kin - SALMON NANCY. However, there is a reference to him on the Australian War Memorial site, and he was mentioned in dispatches: http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=R&VeteranID=860364#summary1 http://www.awm.gov.au/honours/honours/person.asp?p=6459 http://www.awm.gov.au/cms_images/awm192/00310/003100897.pdf

If you put Harold Salmon born 1914 into the search box at the top of this page, you'll find that two people have him in their trees, and one of them has the same surname as Dora.

Harrietta died in NSW in 1966, but I can't find a death for Herbert.

Wow so much information, thank you so very much. You have been a brilliant help. many thanks gina

Hi Mary I have siblings of Herbert who i also believe went to Australia. They are Frances Elinor b.1862 and Eliza Jane and Harry Charles, twins, b.1864. All were born Hampton, England and died in Oz? Any clues as to what happened to them in Oz, marriages etc would be greatly welcomed. Thank you in advance for your help gina

Hi Gina these might be the marriages, in Queensland - you could look for Cherilyn's lookup thread - she has the CDs and can look later than 1914, which is the latest available on-line. 1913/C003543 Salmon Eliza Jane George Durant Dudman 1911/C003074 Salmon Frances Helena Thomas Miles oops, maybe not going by the ages from Mary's last post !! Looking for deaths !! Di

Just found the passenger list of the ship that Herbert and Harrietta went to Australia on in 1909, the Rippingham Grange: http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/downloads/Indexes/immi1884_1912/S1.pdf The passengers included Herbert, Harrietta, Harold (15) and Beryl (11), plus Herbert (6), Cedric (2), Frances Salmon (48) and Eliza Salmon (45).

I posted that before I saw your question - the passenger list answers part of it, and I'll see if I can find any more. I've already looked for Australian service records for Herbert and Cedric, but haven't found anything, and haven't found a death or marriage for Beryl. However, if they lived in Queensland, there won't be anything online. Cedric is presumably Cedric Laurence Salmon born Horsham 1906; a Cedric L Salmon married Jeanie H McNaught in North Sydney in 1932.

Hi If Harry did not come with the rest could this be him ? 1881/C001050 Salmon Harry Florence Maude Mary Shaw ?? and four children: 1882/C001011 Salmon George Hillhouse Harry Florence Maud Mary Shaw 1883/C001221 Salmon May Harry Florence Maud Mary Shaw 1885/C001528 Salmon Nellie Harry Florence Maud Mary Shaw 1887/C006686 Salmon John Hearsey Harry Florence Maud Mary Shaw Diane

I wonder what happened to Eliza's twin Harry? He's not on the passenger list, so he either died before 1909, or emigrated earlier, or decided not to emigrate at all.

Here's Harry Charles Salmon's service record, so he also enlisted in Queensland: SALMON Harry Charles : Service Number - 4349 : Place of Birth - Hampton England : Place of Enlistment - Toowoomba QLD : Next of Kin - (Wife) SALMON Mrs H C The full service record's online on the NAA site like the others.

A Harry Salmon of about the right age (38) travelled to Victoria alone in 1903: http://proarchives.imagineering*com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23 (replace asterisk with dot) I can't see him on the 1901 census, though, so the marriage and children Diane found may well be correct.

I think the Salmons emigrated in the late 1800s. They came back to England and then returned to Oz. I have Herberts parents deaths in 1901 and 1907, thic could explain why they came back to England perhaps twice. Cedric was born in Oz and was listed as 2 on the passenger lists therefore this must have been the second trip back to england possiblly for their mothers death/funeral? gina

Can you find out who married Harry Charles Salmon and when Herbert (aged 6 on passenger list in 1909) was born and whether he married? many thanks for all your help gina

I suppose this might be Herbert in NSW: marriage: 22671/1937 SALMON HERBERT CYRIL MACKAY JEAN WOOLLAHRA death: 29871/1976 SALMON HERBERT CYRIL HERBERT ALICE MAY although the mother's first name's wrong. Can't see a birth for him in NSW or Queensland, but this English birth looks promising: Births Mar 1903 Salmon Herbert Cyril Kingston 2a 435 Can't find Harry Charles Salmon in NSW, so he presumably settled elsewhere. The Queensland BMD index only goes up to 1914, but the marriage Diane found earlier may be correct. You'd need to get the cert to be sure. You can try WA and Victoria here; the other States aren't online: http://www.justice.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria