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Mother - Alice Hardiman/Hardyman/Hardman (any consensus on how it should be spelt please)

Father - John Soden b. 1799.

I have Charlotte marrying John England but for some reason I also have her down as marrying Thomas Wilkes. I can't quite remember why but a fresh pair of eyes (or a few of them) would be very helpful please.

Thanks and Kind Regards,

Beanie.

Name: Charlotte Soden
Sex: Female
Husband: Thomas Wilks
Other information in the record of Thomas Wilks
from England Marriages, 1538–1973

Name:
Thomas Wilks
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
5 Jun 1855
Event Place:
Tysoe, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Tysoe, Warwick, England
Gender:
Male
Spouse's Name:
Charlotte Soden
Spouse's Gender:
Female

Baptism.?

Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
9 Jun 1833
Event Place:
Tysoe, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Tysoe, Warwick, England
Gender:
Female
Father's Name:
John Soden
Mother's Name:
Alice

This marrige to John England.?


Warickshire, Parish Registers, 1535-1963





Name:
John England
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
31 Jul 1888
Event Place:
Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Gender:
Male
Marital Status:
Widowed
Father's Name:
William England
Spouse's Name:
Charlotte Wills
Spouse's Marital Status:
Widowed
Spouse's Father's Name:
John Soden

Easy to follow through census etc

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Upper Tysoe, Shipston on Stour, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Soden Head Married Male 52 1799 Farmer Labourer Epwell, Oxfordshire, England
Alice Soden Wife Married Female 57 1794 - Warwickshire, England
Charlotte Soden Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 - Warwickshire, England
Richard Soden Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Farmer Labourer Warwickshire, England
Harriot Soden Daughter - Female 12 1839 Scholar Warwickshire, England

With the marriage to Wilks in 1855 as Soden, IF she married a John England it was not as Soden

Baptism

Name: Charlotte Soden
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1833
Baptism Place: Tysoe, Warwickshire, England
Parish: Tysoe
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Father: John Soden
Mother: Alice Soden

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Wilkes Head Married Male 34 1827 Labourer Warwickshire, England
Charlotte Wilkes Wife Married Female 28 1833 - Warwickshire, England
Barbara Alice Wilkes Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Warwickshire, England

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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hall End, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Wilkes Head - Male 49 1822 - Tysoe, Warwickshire, England
Charlotte Wilkes Wife - Female 39 1832 - Tysoe, Warwickshire, England
William Wilkes Son - Male 8 1863 - Staffordshire, England
Mary Ann Wilkes Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Staffordshire, England
Joseph Wilkes Son - Male 0 1871 - Staffordshire, England

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
WILKES, JOSEPH SODEN
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 802

1841

Name: Charlotte Soden
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Gender: Female
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Tysoe
Hundred: Kington (Kington Division)
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: Shipston on Stour
Sub-registration district: Halford
Neighbors:
Piece: 1133
Book: 14
Folio: 29
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
John Soden 40
Allis Soden 45
Joseph Soden 11
Charlotte Soden 8
Richard Soden 6
Harriott Soden 3

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
8, Parsonage Street, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Wilkes Head Married Male 54 1827 Forge Laborer Warwickshire, England
Charlotte Wilkes Wife Married Female 49 1832 - Warwickshire, England
William Wilkes Son Single Male 18 1863 Forge Laborer Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Mary A Wilkes Daughter Single Female 13 1868 - Oxhill, Warwickshire, England
Joseph Wilkes Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Alice Wilkes Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Amelia Wilkes Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

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???
Name: Age at Death (in years):
WILKES, THOMAS 60
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 515

She married Thmas Wilks as a spinster and he a bachalour.

Second marriage both widow and widower.

Name: Charlotte Wilks
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage or Bann Date: 31 Jul 1888
Marriage or Bann Place: Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Parish: Ratley
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Spouse: John England
Father: John Goden

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Ratley, Banbury, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John England Head Married Male 46 1845 Agricultural Labourer Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Charlotte England Wife Married Female 58 1833 - Warwickshire, England
George England Son Single Male 22 1869 Farm Servant Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Elizabeth England Daughter - Female 14 1877 Scholar Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Joseph England Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Mabel England Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Alice Wilkes Daughter In Law Single Female 19 1872 Domestic Servant Staffordshire, England 99%)

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ENGLAND, MABEL HANNAH HAYNES
GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in BANBURY Volume 03A Page 820

___________________________

ENGLAND John Banbury 3a 1325 <<<<<<<<<<
HAYNES Eliza J Banbury 3a 1325 <<<<<<<<<<
STREETS Sarah A Banbury 3a 1325
Swift George Banbury 3a 1325

Record Transcription:
Warwickshire Marriages

Parish Baptisms Record
Warwickshire, England
Year of birth: 1834
Charlotte Soden
Parish Baptisms Record
Warwickshire, England
Year of birth: 1833
Charlotte Soden
Parish Baptisms Record
Warwickshire, England
Year of birth: 1833
First name(s) Charlotte
Last name Soden
Sex Female
Age Full
Marital status spinster
Residence Upper Tysoe
Marriage year 1855
Marriage date 05 Jun 1855
Denomination Anglican
Place Tysoe
Spouse's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's last name Wylks
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's marital status bachelor
Spouse's residence Upper Tysoe
Spouse's occupation Labourer
Father's name John Soden
Father's occupation Labourer
Spouse's father's name William Wylks
Spouse's father's occupation Labourer
First witness Richard Soden
Second witness Harriet Soden
County Warwickshire
Country England
Document type Parish registers
Archive
Warwickshire County Record Office
Archive reference DR0288/10
Page 65
Record type Marriages
Record's year range 1837-1916
Record set Warwickshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Marriage entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Warwickshire
Place (Links to more information) Tysoe
Church name (Links to more information) St Mary
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 118
Marriage date 02 Oct 1829
Groom forename John
Groom surname SODEN
Groom parish Tysoe
Bride forename Alice
Bride surname HARDEMAN
Bride parish Tysoe
Witness1 William MOLE
Witness2 Ann WALKER
Notes Groom, Bride & second witness signed `X`.
Transcribed by John Prime
File line number 119

You should perhaps start keeping accurate notes and records of your research, to avoid losing track of what you have found - or has been found for you.

The easiest way to achieve this is to enter findings on to your family tree, with sources in the ‘notes’ section

So, would people agree on Mel Fairy Godmother's findings that she married twice and had kids from each marriage?

Children I have listed:

- Barbara Alice Wilkes b. 1860 - Tysoe (Warwickshire)

- William Wilkes b. 1863 in Darlaston (Staffordshire)

- Mary Ann Wilkes b. 1868 - Oxhill, Warwickshire

- Joseph Wilkes- 1861 West Bromwich (Staffordshire)

- Alice Wilkes b. 1863 West Bromwich (Staffordshire)

- Amelia Wilkes b. 1877 West Bromwich (Staffordshire)

- George ENGLAND b. 1869, Ratley, Warwickshire

- Elizabeth ENGLAND b. 1877 Ratley, Warwickshire

- Joseph ENGLAND b. 1860, Ratley, Warwickshire

- Mabel ENGLAND b. 1884, Ratley. Warwickshire.

Having a child at 53 years old, in the case of Mabel is, to say the least, a bit of a push and, unless they had very unstable accommodation issues, it seems a bit far fetched?

Thanks and Kind Regards,

Beanie.

Name
Frances Priscilla Wilks
Mother
Charlotte Wilks
Father
Thomas Wilks
Baptism
26/01/1870 Combroke Warwickshire England

Name
William Wilks
Mother
Charlotte Wilks
Father
Thomas Wilks
Baptism
03/04/1867 Tysoe Warwickshire England
Warwickshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1910



BIRTH, BAPTISM & CHRISTENING
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Record information.
Name
John Thomas Wilks
Mother
Charlotte Wilks
Father
Thomas Wilks
Baptism
04/05/1873 Radford Semele Warwickshire England


Name
John Thomas Wilks
Mother
Charlotte Wilks
Father
Thomas Wilks
Baptism
04/05/1873 Radford Semele Warwickshire England


Mary Ann Wilkes
Mother
Charlotte Wilkes
Father
Thomas Wilkes
Baptism
05/07/1868 Oxhill Warwickshire England


Name
Barbara Alice Wilks
Mother
Charlotte Wilks
Father
Thomas Wilks
Baptism
05/08/1860 Tysoe Warwickshire England.

These are the only Wilkes baptisms listed on Ancestry for named couple--Thomas and Charlotte in Warwickshire.


I think both John England and Charlotte had children from previous marriages and some names you have listed are not connected.



You have Alice Wilkes born 1863 and William Wilkes born 1863 in different areas,?

Deaths Dec 1886 (>99%)
ENGLAND Eliza Jane 44 Banbury 3a 482

Record Transcription:
Warwickshire Baptisms

First name(s) Mabel Anna
Last name England
Birth year 1883
Birth date 16 Sep 1883
Baptism year 1883
Baptism date 04 Nov 1883
Denomination Anglican
Place Ratley
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name England
Mother's first name(s) Eliza xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Residence Ratley
Father's occupation Labourer
County Warwickshire
Country England
Document type Parish registers
Archive
Warwickshire County Record Office
Archive reference DR0664/1
Event Baptisms
Page 28
Records year range 1868-1917
Record set Warwickshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

This appears to be John Englands son, George and Thomas Wilkes daughter. Alice on their marriage.








Name:
George England
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
27 Dec 1891
Event Place:
Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Event Place (Original):
Ratley, Warwick, England
Gender:
Male
Age:
23
Birth Year (Estimated):
1868
Father's Name:
John England
Spouse's Name:
Alice Maud Mary Wilkes
Spouse's Gender:
Female
Spouse's Age:
21
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):
1870

Check the mmn -on the GRO site.

Look at the 1891 census posted earlier -
the England children are listed as son or daughter to John England the Head of the household.

Alice Wilkes aged 19 (so shows as born 1872 not 1863 as per your list) relationship to Head of the household is shown as Daughter in law - another way of saying step daughter.

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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Ratley, Ratley (Warwick), Banbury, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John England Head Married Male 37 1844 Ag Lab Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Eliza England Wife Married Female 39 1842 - Long Itchington, Warwickshire, England
George England Son Single Male 12 1869 Ag Lab Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Ann C England Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Ratley, Warwickshire, England
John E England Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Sarah Ann England Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Elizabeth England Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Ratley, Warwickshire, England
Joseph W England Son Single Male 1 1880 - Ratley, Warwickshire, England

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and then there's the death of Eliza. After the England children have been born. She was approx. 10 years younger than Charlotte

Deaths Dec 1886 (>99%)
ENGLAND Eliza Jane 44 Banbury 3a 482