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Do you have the marriage certificate of James and Margaret please? That may confirm James's father's name and occupation.

If you look on the GRO site for births of James Henry Eccleston born 1885 +/- 2 years there is only one that gave a mmn and I think he died ages 17 months. So, I'm think that either your James added Henry as a middle name or he was illegitimate. Have you found him listed as James Henry on either the 1901 or 1891 census please?

1939 Register


Eccleston Household (2 People)

213 Hope Carr Road , Leigh M.B., Lancashire, England


Eliza A Eccleston 05 Nov 1914 Female Cotton Bobbin Winde Weaving Mill Married 335 2
Arthur Eccleston 03 Oct 1912 Male Coal Packer Below Grou Coal Mine Heavy Worke Married 335 1

Will Arthur Eccleston born 1912 in Leigh and married Eliza Morgan in 1938 be on the 1939 register
thanks
Phil

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Makinson Head Married Male 32 1819 Coal Miner Adlington, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Makinson Wife Married Female 30 1821 Domestic Duties Lancashire, England
Thomas Makinson Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 Drawer Coal Miner Lancashire, England
Ellen Makinson Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1841 Sweeper Cotton Mill Chorley, Lancashire, England
James Makinson Son Unmarried Male 6 1845 Scholar Lancashire, England
Nancy Makinson Daughter Unmarried Female 2 1849 At Home Lancashire, England

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Red Bank, Chorley, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
William MacKinson Male 22 1819 Lancashire, England Collier
Betty MacKinson Female 25 1816 Lancashire, England
Thomas MacKinson Male 1 1840 Lancashire, England
Ellen MacKinson Female 0 1841 Lancashire, England

You would need Andrew and Ellen's MC to confFather's names and occupations

?? Ellen in 1861 - note address as per Andrew and Ellen 1871

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Stoney Lane, Hindley, Wigan, Lancashire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Tootle Head Married Male 44 1817 Coal Miner Baughurst, Lancashire, England
Maria Tootle Wife Married Female 42 1819 - Bolton, Lancashire, England
Richard Tootle Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Coal Miner Bolton, Lancashire, England
John Tootle Son Unmarried Male 17 1844 Coal Miner Ringley, Lancashire, England
James Tootle Son Unmarried Male 15 1846 Coal Miner Ringley, Lancashire, England
Ellen Tootle Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1848 Carder In Cotton Mill Ringley, Lancashire, England
Robert Tootle Son - Male 11 1850 Drawer In Coalpit Ringley, Lancashire, England
Henry Tootle Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Ringley, Lancashire, England
Alice Tootle Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Ringley, Lancashire, England
Peter Tootle Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Hindley, Lancashire, England
Thomas Tootle Son - Male 2 1859 - Hindley, Lancashire, England
Ellen Makinson Boarder Unmarried Female 20 1841 Works On Coalpit Brow Chorley, Lancashire, England


(there is also a George Makinson b 1830 with a wife Ellen in Stoney Lane)

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Eccleston Household (3 People)
98 Firs Lane , Leigh M.B., Lancashire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S)

James Eccleston
DOB 07 May 1883. <<<<<<<<<<
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Coal Miner Retired
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 22
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Margaret Eccleston
DOB 27 Dec 1884
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 22
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

John Eccleston
DOB 29 Jul 1906
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Colliery Worker Road Haula?
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 22
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 3
Ref: RG101/4811J/003/34 Letter Code: NVRL
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William Eccleston
mentioned in the record of William Eccleston and Betty Morris
Name William Eccleston
Spouse's Name Betty Morris
Event Date 21 May 1832
Event Place Saint Peter,Bolton Le Moors,Lancashire,England

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Blundells Farm, Bolton, Wigan, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
William Eccleston Male 30 1811 Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Eccleston Female 30 1811 Lancashire, England
Richard Eccleston Male 9 1832 Lancashire, England
Joseph Eccleston Male 8 1833 Lancashire, England
Mary Eccleston Female 5 1836 Lancashire, England
Andrew Eccleston Male 1 1840 Lancashire, England

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Are the Morris and Eccleston families related as Andrew is Andrew Morris Eccleston

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Brow Houses, Blackrod, Wigan, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Andrew Morris Head Married Male 54 1797 Luarry Master (Stone) Anderton, Lancashire, England
Alice Morris Wife Married Female 53 1798 - Blackrod, Lancashire, England
William Barker Lodger Unmarried Male 29 1822 Engine Driver Coppull, Lancashire, England
John Boardman Lodger Unmarried Male 23 1828 Farm Labourer Blackrod, Lancashire, England
Andrew Eccleston Lodger Unmarried Male 10 1841 Scholar Blackrod, Lancashire, England

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Stoney Lane, Hindley, Wigan, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Andrew Morris Eccleston Head - Male 33 1838 - Lancashire, England
Ellen Eccleston Wife - Female 32 1839 - Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Eccleston Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Lancashire, England
Mary Eccleston Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Lancashire, England
William Richard Eccleston Son - Male 4 1867 - Lancashire, England
Joseph Eccleston Son - Male 2 1869 - Lancashire, England

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
18, Gennel Off Bridge Street, Hindley, Wigan, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Andrew Eccleston Head Married Male 42 1839 Coal Miner Blackrod, Lancashire, England
Ellen Eccleston Wife Married Female 41 1840 - Chorley, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth A Eccleston Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Power Loom Cotton Weaver Hindley, Lancashire, England
Mary Eccleston Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Cotton Mill Throstle Spinner Piecer Hindley, Lancashire, England
William R Eccleston Son Single Male 14 1867 Cotton Mill Skavenger For Spinner Hindley, Lancashire, England
Joseph Eccleston Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Hindley, Lancashire, England
Thomas Eccleston Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Hindley, Lancashire, England
Andrew N Eccleston Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Hindley, Lancashire, England
Ann Eccleston Daughter Single Female 3 1878 Scholar Hindley, Lancashire, England
Albert E Eccleston Son Single Male 0 1881 - Lancashire, England
Agnes Ann Johnson Boarder Single Female 15 1866 Cotton Mill Throstle Spinner Doffer Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Thanks everyone so much for your help

If correct family, then this could be the marriage.

1891 census age shows Ellen as 45 -ish if James is hers. However, possibly a child of a daughter Andrew and Ellen's ?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1862 (>99%)
Birchall Richard Wigan 8c 27
Clementson Mary Ann Wigan 8c 27
Ecclestion Andrew Wigan 8c 27
Eccleston Andrew Wigan 8c 27
Makinson Ellen Wigan 8c 27

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:

ECCLESTON, ANDREW MORRIS MAKINSON
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 86

but no registration for Mary E with mmn Makinson, but one in wigan for a Mary Ellen no mmn showing

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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Macclesfield Street, Hindley, Wigan, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Andrew M Eccleston Head Married Male 52 1839 Coal Miner Blackrod, Lancashire, England
Ellen Eccleston Wife Married Female 51 1840 - Lancashire, England
William R Eccleston Son Single Male 24 1867 Coal Miner Lancashire, England
Joseph Eccleston Son Single Male 21 1870 Coal Miner Lancashire, England
Thomas Eccleston Son Single Male 19 1872 Coal Miner Lancashire, England
Andrew M Eccleston Son Single Male 16 1875 Coal Miner Hindley, Lancashire, England
Anne Eccleston Daughter - Female 13 1878 Cotton Weaver Lancashire, England
Mary E Eccleston Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Lancashire, England
James Eccleston Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Lancashire, England

Original shows this James to be born in Hindley which is only about 2-3 miles from Wigan and 4-5 from Leigh

Gives birth year 1883 on 1939 register.

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ECCLESTON, JAMES HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 101

that 1911 from FMP with places of birth and occupations

1911 Census For England & Wales
5 a 4 Shambles St Barnsley, Barnsley, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Henry Eccleston Head Married Male 26 1885 Coal Miner Hewer Leigh Lancashire
Margaret Eccleston Wife Married Female 26 1885 - Leigh Lancashire
John Eccleston Son - Male 4 1907 - Leigh Lancashire
Harold Eccleston Son - Male 3 1908 - Leigh Lancashire

Son George with grandparents -

1911 Census For England & Wales
33 Woolpack Inn King Street Leigh, Leigh, Lancashire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George D Hudspith Head Married Male 64 1847 Beer Retailer Beerhousekeeper Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland
Elizabeth Hudspith Wife Married Female 56 1855 Assists In The Business Ashton in Makerfield Lanc
Jane Hudspith Daughter Single Female 34 1877 - Leigh Lancashire
Esther Hudspith Niece Single Female 20 1891 - Haydock Lanc
George Eccleston Grandson - Male 5 1906 - Leigh Lanc
George Eccleston's Census Details

James Henry Eccleston
in the 1911 England Census

Name:
James Henry Eccleston

Age in 1911:
26

Estimated birth year:
abt 1885

Relation to Head:
Head

Gender:
Male

Birth Place:
Leigh, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish:
Barnsley

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Search for 'Barnsley' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection

County/Island:
Yorkshire-West Riding

Country:
England

Street address:
5 House 4 Court Shamble St Barnsley Yorkshire

Marital status:
Married

Occupation:
Coal Miner

Registration district:
Barnsley

Registration District Number:
507

Sub-registration district:
Barnsley

ED, institution, or vessel:
14

Piece:
27573

Household Members:
James Henry Eccleston 26
Margaret Eccleston 26
John Eccleston 4
Harold Eccleston 3

Married 6 years, 3 children born, all still living.
There's a blank line between Margaret and John.

Arthur born Leigh so ? in same area 1911

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ECCLESTON, ARTHUR HUDSPITH
GRO Reference: 1912 D Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 547

ECCLESTON, HARRY HUDSPISH
GRO Reference: 1918 J Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 445

Also
ECCLESTON, JOHN HUDSPITH
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 309

Not found them yet but earlier children might help

ECCLESTON, GEORGE HUDSPITH
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 311
ECCLESTON, HAROLD HUDSPITH
GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in OF LEIGH Volume 08C Page 259