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Edward Harris died 19th June 1840

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Ellen

Ellen Report 5 Feb 2019 15:19

My husbands 2x Great Aunt Ethelinda Stearn married a Edward Harris 9/5/1839 at St Mary's Ipswich Suffolk
They had a daughter Elizabeth Margaret born in 1839 died 1839
Edward died 19/6/1840 at Rope Lane St Clements Ipswich Suffolk of Decline
He was a Serjeant of the 12th Regiment of Foot did he die of injuries?
Edwards's father was a Thomas Harris a Husband Man ( I do not know what this means)
Can anyone help with further information on Edward?
Ethelinda remarried & went on to have a further 4 children I have all of this information
Thank You

safc

safc Report 5 Feb 2019 15:28

http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/index.html

Husband-Man / Husbandman 1) Tenant farmer 2) Farmer dealing with animals (14th century From the Anglo-Saxon husbonda) - a shepherd

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Feb 2019 15:29

Dying of "decline" could mean pretty much anything undiagnosed - just that he got weaker and died.

He was 36 when he died, so born c 1804.

Death:
HARRIS, EDWARD 36
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in IPSWICH Volume 12 Page 250


A husbandman was a farmer.
(Look it up in a dictionary or online.)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Feb 2019 16:05

The only additional info you can hope for is his baptism which MAY give you his mother's first name

You may not even be able to find out where he was born, as he isn't on a census

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Feb 2019 16:27

Maybe????

Name: Edwd Harris
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1803
Birth Place: Elham, Kent
Occupation: Gardener
For which periodof Service: Life
Military Date: 17 Jun 1824
Unit: 12th Foot Soldiers

....................

There is a baptism that could fit although dob is slightly out

Name Edward Harris
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 30 Aug 1801
Event Place Elham, Kent, England, United Kingdom
Event Place Elham, St Mary the Virgin, Kent
Father's Name Thomas
Mother's Name Mary
..........

Name Edward Harris
Residence Place Kent, England
Gender Male
Christening Date 03 Aug 1801
Christening Date (Original) 3 Aug 1801
Christening Place Elham, Kent, England
Father's Name Thomas Harris
Mother's Name Mary
.....................

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Feb 2019 17:00

Only posting this because it's in Suffolk and the father is Thomas, a farmer - but year doesn't agree with age at death, and your Edward has no middle name, as far as we know:


Edward Keer Harris
in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
Name: Edward Keer Harris
Birth Date: 9 Aug 1807
Gender: Male
Event Type: Baptism
Father: Thomas Harris - farmer
Mother: Mary Ann Denny
Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1807
Baptism Place: Framlingham, Suffolk, England
Denomination: Presbyterian or Unitarian
Piece Title: Piece 1839: Framlingham, Old Meeting House (Unitarian or Presbyterian), 1785-1837

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Feb 2019 17:20

It might be possible to find discharge papers for him, which might say why he was being discharged.

Dea

Dea Report 5 Feb 2019 17:21

This 'could' be the parents' marriage:

Name: Thomas Harris
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 28 Dec 1789
Marriage Place: Elham, Kent, England
Spouse: Mary Smitten
FHL Film Number: 1836029
Reference ID: 49

Dea x

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Feb 2019 18:04

another possible Edward, as we don't really know where he was born

Canada, British Regimental Registers of Service, 1756-1900

Name: Edward Harris
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1804
Birth Place: Handsworth, York
Military Date: 3 Jun 1826
Unit: 1st Foot Soldiers, 4th Battalion

Trade:- Cutler
Enlistment:- Sheffield
Enlistment period:- USc <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<????what this is

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Feb 2019 18:50

I think it's UL, Sylvia.

Possibly standing for Unlimited (??) , as it's in the column headed "For What Period of Service".

EDIT:

Yes, in fact, if you look at page 2 of the image, there are entries of both Limited and Unlimited.

malyon

malyon Report 5 Feb 2019 19:04

deleted wrong year

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Feb 2019 19:36

malyon .....................

he died in 1840, so the 1911 is no use!!!!!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Feb 2019 19:37

AG ...


that does make more sense!!!

Thank you

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Feb 2019 21:45

Ellen posted that Edward was

'Serjeant of the 12th Regiment of Foot '

that's why I thought that the record I posted may be him.

I don't have an account with findmypast anymore but maybe someone else has and could take a look on there to see if there is any further info.?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Feb 2019 22:11

That record you posted, Catherine -

here again for ease of reference:

Edwd Harris
in the Canada, British Regimental Registers of Service, 1756-1900
Name: Edwd Harris
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1803
Birth Place: Elham, Kent
Military Date: 17 Jun 1824
Unit: 12th Foot Soldiers

Height: 5' 7"
Fair complexion, grey eyes, brown hair.
Attestation at Bury St Edmunds on 17 June 1824.
For What Period of Service: Life.
Promoted to Corporal: 26 June 1928.

No other info on it.

If that's him, he could have been a sergeant by 1840, I suppose.

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Feb 2019 09:17

Thanks ArglGran I was hoping it may give a date of promotion to sergeant or a marriage date, anything that could proove or disproove.
Never mind.

Ellen

Ellen Report 6 Feb 2019 10:07

Thank you all of you wonderful people
I am leaning towards parents Edward & Mary,I know his father was Edward as stated on the Marriage certificate
I looked on FMP but nothing there,I wonder if he was in the Canadian,British Regiment?
I found someone on Ancestry that has Edward as the son of Edward & Mary Smitten but no further information on him,I have emailed them waiting on a reply
Cheers Ellen

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Feb 2019 12:23

Ellen -

Father Edward??
In your opening post you said his father's name was Thomas.

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Feb 2019 12:47

there is this one with father edward but he has a middle name

Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 4)
Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911
First name(s) Edward Josiah
Last name Harris
Baptism year 1807
Relationship Son
County Suffolk
Country England
Place Ipswich
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Father's first name(s) Edward
Baptism date 17 Jun 1807
Parish St Clement
Residence Ipswich
Entry No 146/3

Edward
Last name Harris
Marriage year 1803
Marriage date 02 Oct 1803
Marriage place Ipswich St Mary At Quay
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Morley
County Suffolk
Country England
Record set Suffolk Marriage Index

this could be the edward in the canadian record

Edward Harris
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 30 Aug 1801
Event Place Elham, Kent, England, United Kingdom
Event Place Elham, St Mary the Virgin, Kent
Father's Name Thomas
Mother's Name Mary
Citing this Record

"England, Kent, Canterbury Parish Registers, 1538-1986," database with

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Feb 2019 13:02

info on 12th reg
Chronology

1685 raised as Duke of Norfolk's Regiment of Foot
1751 became 12th Regiment of Foot
1752 became the 12th (the East Suffolk) Regiment of Foot
1758 2nd Battalion redesignated as 65th (2nd Yorkshire, North Riding) Regiment of Foot ================
1881 became The Suffolk Regiment
1959 amalgamated with the 1st Battalion The Royal Norfolk Regiment and became 1st Battalion, 1st East Anglian Regiment (Royal Norfolk and Suffolk)
1964 amalgamated with the three other remaining regiments of the East Anglian Brigade and became 1st Battalion (Royal Norfolk and Suffolk) East Anglian Brigade