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Antoine Maurel

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Ellen

Ellen Report 16 Jan 2019 01:13

Thank you Catherine I know it is not the one I have but this does give me a lot of information on him.
I appreciate you going to the trouble of translating it :-)

Ellen

Ellen Report 8 Jan 2019 01:04

Thank You Catherine, but it does not appear to be the one I have

it starts les notes(x) sont reportees en fin de page
les documents sont indexes dans des pages annexes Pour y ace petits boutons places dans le texte
No Sosa Subrecargue,Capitaine de navire de commerce, Chirugien,Negociane
Ne le 18 Juin 1763a Vence, (department des Alpes Maritim Departement du Var (1)

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jan 2019 16:42

Tiggit, that's quite a good translation.
A few errors and some words not even translated but it's really not bad for an online translating aide. Much better than ones you used to get. Nice one. :-)

Kayak

Kayak Report 7 Jan 2019 15:32

Catherine, here it is translated using the link I provided which took me the time to copy and paste it. Lets hope it is of interest to Ellen!

Antoine Maurel was born June 18, 1763 in Vence, certainly in the family home located intra muros, which still exists, "way of the Porte Saint Paul" current street of the Town Hall, in the immediate vicinity of the Door of Signadour.

He was the ninth child of Jacques, housekeeper, baker, and Catherine Sue, originally from La Colle sur Loup and a relative of the writer Eugène Sue. The profession of housekeeping is that of the peasant who cultivates his own land. Those of Jacques were in the district of the bridge, and produced vines, olive-trees, mulberry-trees and other fruit-trees. The bakery bakery on the ground floor of the family home could have existed nowadays, if modernization had not had its effect.

Antoine learned the surgery probably with one of his uncle surgeons, but we do not know anything about him before he settled in 1792 in Mahé, main island of the archipelago of Seychelles.

It is found as subrécargue of an Arab ship, the Cabras, coming from Muscat, released in the Seychelles from April 6 to July 3, 1798. He took advantage of this long stop in the archipelago to marry a young girl of colonel, Marie Hélène Savy on June 27, 1798, a week before driving the Cabras to Port Louis, Isle of France, where he signed the declaration of arrival as captain of this vessel.

The enigmatic character, Antoine Maurel, seems to have gone through time without fanfare, but it is undeniable that he participated actively in the economic life of Seychelles and most probably, the time being remarkable, with the numerous maritime scaffoldings which punctuated the relations between the France and England. It is indeed disturbing to note that her first child was born on June 12, 1802, exactly four years after her marriage. This weariness of time may indicate the absence of Antoine de Seychelles between 1798 and 1801.

Marie Hélène Savy gave her four children: Marie François Antoine Maurel, Edouard Sauveur Célestin, Jacques Marie Gustave who died young and Marie Dorothée Emmée who will marry the eldest son of Jean François Hodoul, the corsair. His three children then went to Mauritius.

Marie Hélène Savy died on June 15, 1807 in Mahé Seychelles. Antoine remarried on June 10, 1813 with Henriette Thiebault, widow who also gave him four children so Françoise Henriette who married Jean François Hodoul, the youngest son of Jean François Hodoul, the Corsair.

The census of 1817 shows that Antoine owned 425 acres of land at Anse la Retraite in northeastern Mahe, including 30 acres of maize, 60 acres of cassava, 10 acres of diverse crops, 167 acres of cotton, 108 savannah acres and 50 arpents of "standing timber", and ... 170 slaves.

Antoine died on January 9, 1830. He is buried in the old Bel Air cemetery with Marie Hélène Savy, his first wife. His second wife survived him 21 years. She died of hydrophism on February 1, 1851 in Mahé, Seychelles.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jan 2019 15:18

I don't want to waste my time translating unless this is of interest to you, so let me know what you think please.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jan 2019 15:14

found this on the internet, is this part of the biography that you have?

Antoine Maurel naquit le 18 juin 1763 à Vence, très certainement dans la maison familiale sise intra muros, qui existe encore, "voie de la Porte Saint Paul" actuelle rue de l'Hôtel de ville, à proximité immédiate de la Porte du Signadour.

Il était le neuvième enfant de Jacques, ménager, boulanger, et de Catherine Sue, originaire de La Colle sur Loup et parente de l'Ecrivain Eugène Sue. La profession de ménager est celle du paysan qui cultive ses propres terres. Celles de Jacques se situaient au quartier du pont, et produisaient vignes, oliviers, figuiers mûriers et autres arbres fruitiers. Le fournil de la boulangerie située au rez de chaussée de la maison familiale aurait pu exister de nos jours, si la modernisation n'avait pas fait son effet.

Antoine apprit la chirurgie probablement avec un de ses oncles chirurgiens, mais on ne sait rien de lui avant qu'il s'établisse en 1792 à Mahé, principale île de l'archipel des Seychelles.

On le retrouve comme subrécargue d'un navire arabe, le Cabras, venant de Mascate, en relâche aux Seychelles du six avril au 3 juillet 1798. Il profita de cette longue escale dans l'archipel pour épouser une jeune fille de colon, Marie Hélène Savy le 27 juin 1798, une semaine avant de conduire le Cabras au Port Louis, Isle de France, où il signe la déclaration d'arrivée en qualité de capitaine de ce navire.

Personnage enigmatique, Antoine Maurel, semble avoir traversé le temps sans tambour ni trompette, mais il indéniable qu'il participa activement à la vie économique des Seychelles et fort probablement, l'époque étant remarquable, aux nombreuses échaufourrées maritimes qui ponctuèrent les relations entre la France et l'Angleterre. Il est en effet troublant de constater que son premier enfant naquit le 12 juin 1802, soit très exactement quatre ans après son mariage. Ce las de temps peut indiquer l'absence de Antoine des Seychelles entre 1798 et 1801.

Marie Hélène Savy lui donna 4 enfants: Marie François Antoine Maurel, Edouard Sauveur Célestin, Jacques Marie Gustave qui mourut jeune et Marie Dorothée Emmée qui épousera le fils aîné de Jean François Hodoul, le corsaire. Ses trois enfants passèrent ensuite à l'Ile Maurice.

Marie Hélène Savy mourut le 15 juin 1807 à Mahé Seychelles. Antoine se remaria le 10 juin 1813 avec Henriette Thiebault, veuve qui lui donna également quatre enfants donc Françoise Henriette qui épousera Jean François Hodoul, le fils cadet de Jean François Hodoul, le Corsaire.

Le recensement de 1817 fait resssortir que Antoine possédait 425 arpents de terres sises à l'Anse la Retraite dans le Nord Est de Mahé, dont 30 arpents de maïs, 60 arpents de manioc, 10 arpents de cultures diverses, 167 arpents de coton, 108 arpents de savane et 50 arpents de "bois debout", et...170 esclaves.

Antoine mourut le 9 janvier 1830. Il est inhumé auprès dans le vieux cimetière de Bel Air auprès de Marie Hélène Savy, sa première femme. Sa seconde épouse lui survécut 21 ans. Elle mourut d'hydrophisie le 1er février 1851 à Mahé, Seychelles.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jan 2019 14:45

basic info from genesreunited

Antoine MAUREL, 1763 - 1830
Antoine MAUREL est né le jour mois 1763, (born, the day and month) 18 Juin 1763) à Lieu de naissance (place of birth), Vence, Alpes-Maritimes, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France )

des parents (Parents names) Jacques MAUREL and Marie Catherine MAUREL (née SUE). (born SUE)

Jacques est né (was born) le 21 novembre 1716, à (in) Vence, Alpes Maritimes, France 06.

Marie est née (was born) le 9 novembre 1723, à (in) La Colle sur Loup, Alpes Maritimes, France 06.

Antoine avait des frères et soeurs: (had brothers and sisters)
Marie Anne MAUREL,
André Emmanuel MAUREL
et 7 autres frères et soeurs.(and 7 other brothers and sisters)

Antoine a épousé (married) Marie Helene MAUREL (née SAVY) (born SAVY) le jour mois (the day month) 1798, à l'âge de (at the age of) 35 à lieu du mariage (the place of marriage).

Marie est née(born) le 27 juin 1776, à(at) St Pierre, Reunion. (died 16 Mai 1807) (place of death) Mahé, Seychelles aged 30
Parents:- Fille de (daughter of) François Savy et(and) Marie Dorothée Etheve

Ils ont eu 4 enfants(they had 4 children):
Marie Francois
Antoine MAUREL
et 3 autres enfants. (and 3 other children)

Antoine a épousé (married) Henriette MAUREL (née (born) THÉBAULT).

Henriette est née(was born) le 30 juillet 1786, à (at) St Louis, La Réunion.
(died) 01 Février 1851 (aged) (64) (place of death) Mahé, Seychelles

Ils ont eu 5 enfants: (they had 5 children)
Cécile MAUREL,
Franchette MAUREL
et 3 autres enfants. (and 3 other children)

Antoine décéda (died) le jour mois (the day and month) 09 Janvier 1830,
à l'âge de (at the age of) 66
à lieu de décès.(place of death) Mahé, Seychelles
......................
more info on Henriette
[First huusband:- Pierre Antoine Simon Petit
Birthdate: 28 Octobre 1769
Birthplace: Gaye, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France
Death: 1813 (43)
Seychelles]

Any use?

Ellen

Ellen Report 7 Jan 2019 00:41

Thank you I have tried everyway to put it across to translate but nothing
He is Antoine born 18 juin1763 died 9 Janvier 1830 at Mahe marriage civil 27 Juin 1798 Marie Gelene Savy

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Jan 2019 14:19

Can the person who sent you the information not translate it for you?

I wouldn't have time to translate all 10 pages for you but if you are just hoping to find information that can help you in your family tree research, I could take a look for you or do some resarch depending on which Antoine Maurel you are looking for.

Kayak

Kayak Report 6 Jan 2019 11:57

Ellen, try this link:

https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=fr&tl=en

When the window opens you should see two boxes below, the box on the left with the headings Detect Language and French (written in blue) and the box on the right with English (written in blue) and below Translation (written in Grey). If you type in the left hand box the words from the document you wish to translate (in French) they should appear in English in the right hand box as you type them.

Ellen

Ellen Report 5 Jan 2019 23:50

Hi Tiggit I tried that but once I click on translate it does nothing.

I have the family on My Heritage Margaret M thanks, its this 10 page biography on Antoine Maurel that I have that I want to to read Thank You

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 5 Jan 2019 13:51

There are family records of different Antoine Maurels here:

https://www.myheritage.com/names/antoine_maurel

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Jan 2019 13:32

Maybe the book exists already in english.
Which Antoine Maurel are you looking for?

Kayak

Kayak Report 5 Jan 2019 12:11

Try this:

https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=en&tl=fr

Ellen

Ellen Report 5 Jan 2019 11:53

Thank you Malyon,I tried your address but it say 405 not allowed

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Jan 2019 10:53

If you've got a smartphone you can use the Google Translate app. If not you can use translate.google.com on the internet.

Kath. x

malyon

malyon Report 5 Jan 2019 10:51

http://itools.com/language/translate

just type in the tex and convert from french to english

Ellen

Ellen Report 5 Jan 2019 09:31

I am helping a friend research her family, we have made contact with a relative in France who has sent me a copy of a Biography for Antoine Maurel but it is in French.
Does anyone know how I could go about finding someone online who can translate it for me?
Thank You