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GG/Shirley,
You are probably both spot on.
The fact that on the "PRIVATE" baptism register it shows address of Mount Pleasant and there was a hospital located there makes me think she maybe was a poorly baby.
I am now requesting the birth and death certs for Sarah, not that I think they will give me any more info but just to tie this up.
At least by finding Sarah I now know the names of her Mother Emma and Grandparents James (1820) & Mary (1821).
Is this when it starts to get tricky to find information? Am I likely to be able to go back further?
GG you said earlier that it looked like James & Mary were born in Dunnington Wood, Shropshire.
There is a Donnington Wood which is less than 30 miles from Longton, so I guess this is the place.
Will I be able to go further back that this?
Not got this far back on branch of my tree.
Exciting
:-D :-D :-D
Thank you to everyone that has picked at bits of this jigsaw.
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You should be able to find the names of James and Mary's fathers - if they knew them - by getting a copy of their marriage cert
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Name: James Ball
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 13 Apr 1817
Baptism Place: Donnington Wood,Shropshire,England
Father: James Ball
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 502936
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https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Aball~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Ashropshire~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1800-1830~%20%2Bfather_givenname%3Ajames~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3Asarah~
Caroline Ball
England Births and Christenings
Name Caroline Ball
Gender Female
Christening Date 08 Sep 1822
Christening Date (Original) 08 SEP 1822
Christening Place DONNINGTON WOOD,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name James Ball
Mother's Name Sarah
Mariann Ball
England Births and Christenings
Name Mariann Ball
Gender Female
Christening Date 23 Jul 1815
Christening Date (Original) 23 JUL 1815
Christening Place DONNINGTON WOOD,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name James Ball
Mother's Name Sarah
James Ball
England Births and Christenings
Name James Ball
Gender Male
Christening Date 13 Apr 1817
Christening Date (Original) 13 APR 1817
Christening Place DONNINGTON WOOD,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name James Ball
Mother's Name Sarah
Maria Ball
England Births and Christenings
Name Maria Ball
Gender Female
Christening Date 28 May 1820
Christening Date (Original) 28 MAY 1820
Christening Place DONNINGTON WOOD,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name James Ball
Mother's Name Sarah
Other records same page show Christenings at St George, Shropshire
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?? This family. Ages a year or so out. 1841 census ages supposed to be given for 15 and under, but any older were meant to be rounded down to nearest 5 i.e. aged 29 would show as 25 etc
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Sneds Hill New Row, Shiffnal, Shifnal, Shropshire, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
James Ball Male 55 1786 Shropshire, England Miner
Sarah Ball Female 55 1786 Shropshire, England
James Ball Male 20 1821 Shropshire, England Miner
Maria Ball Female 18 1823 Shropshire, England
Caroline Ball Female 17 1824 Shropshire, England
Mary Cooper Female 10 1831 Shropshire, England
Benjamin Cooper Male 8 1833 Shropshire, England
William Shelton Male 20 1821 Shropshire, England
Same census page shows a Richard Ball aged 45 also a Miner
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1851
Name: Maria Bell
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Sarah Bell
Gender: Female
Where born: Wrockwardine, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Shiffnal
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Shiffnal
Sub-registration district: Albrighton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a and 6a
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 169
Piece: 1987
Folio: 267
Page Number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Bell 70 widow
Maria Bell 30
Sarah Bell ------------ crossed through
James Nock 24
Emma Nock 23
1841
Name: Maria Ball
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Gender: Female
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Shiffnall
Hundred: Brimstree (Shiffnall Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district: Shifnal
Sub-registration district: Shiffnal
Neighbors:
Piece: 909
Book: 10
Folio: 26
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
James Ball 55
Sarah Ball 55 ---- kinnersley
James Ball 20
Maria Ball 18
Caroline Ball 17
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Also, unless different James and Sarah. Priors Lee and Donnington Wood less than 2 miles apart. google shows Priors Lee and St Georges. All places fairly close.
Eleanor 16.1.1810 - Priors Lee, Shropshire also shown as Christened in Shifnal
Died 16.7.1810
Sarah 4.9.1812 - Priors Lee
John 12.9.1824 - Dawley Magna
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??
Wombridge close to Telford and Wrockwardine. there's also a Wrockwardine Wood, which is next to Donnington / Donnington Wood
James Ball
England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: James Ball
Spouse's Name: Sarah Latham
Event Date: 06 Nov 1809
Event Place: Wombridge,Shropshire,England
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Sarah
Last name Latham
Birth year -
Baptism year 1781
Baptism date 07 Jan 1781
Denomination Anglican
Place Kynnersley ---------------------------
Father's first name(s) Thos
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Composite
Register date range 1721-1792
Archive reference P154/A/1/2
James
Last name Ball
Gender Male
Birth year 1782
Birth place -
Baptism year 1782
Baptism date 1782
Place Shifnal
County Shropshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Ball
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
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