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thank you mary

They had a child in 1904 Priscilla Amy Clara West 1904 looks as though she may have died 1905?
Born 30/9/1904 baptised 13/10/1904 by Joseph and Rosetta abode Lambeth Workhouse occupation Cook.

1904 Rosetta, Rose and David in workhouse.

Maryb.

thanks for that argyllgran,if it is him it would answer the question about the children being removed in 1902

Ancestry's version of the 1891 census for Joseph:

Joseph West
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Joseph West
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Relationship: Patient
Birth Year: 1865
Civil Parish: Coulsdon
Residence Place: Coulsdon, Surrey, England
Sub registration district: Croydon
ED, Institution or Vessel: London County Lunatic Asylum <<<<<<<<<<
Neighbors:
Piece: 600
Folio: 131

sorry for the delay in answering I have been stuffing my face.
thanks for the replies,
to pick up what safc posted it says relationship to head patient does it say what type of establishment please,
malyon yes this is the marriage thanks,
mary yes that is esthers death and josephs marriage thanks

Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
West David Andrew Lambeth 1d 312

Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
West Rose Lilian St. Giles 1b 631

this could be the daughter's marriage

Marriages Jun 1914 (>99%)
WEST Rose L Greenaway Lambeth 1d 712

????

Joseph West
England and Wales Census, 1891
Name Joseph West
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Surrey
Parish Coulsdon
Ecclesiastical Parish ST JOHN EVANGELIST COULSDON
Registration District Croydon
Gender Male
Age 26
Marital Status Single
Occupation Hawker
Relationship to Head of Household Patient
Birth Year (Estimated) 1865
Birthplace England
Page Number 17
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 600/ 131
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1891," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QNH6-NZM : 11 December 2017), Joseph West, Coulsdon, Surrey, England; from "1891 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 12, Surrey county, subdistrict, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

?? Esther West died 1887 buried 4/9/1887 of 20,Spencer Street Clerkenwell.

Maryb.

the 1901 census is for a joseph andrew west here's the marriage

Marriages Mar 1893 (>99%)

Saunders Rosetta St. Saviour 1d 105 Scan available - click to view
West Joseph Andrew St. Saviour 1d 105

hi malyon this is the census I thought was them for 1881 so now I just need to try and find them in 1891,
thanks

This looks like the son David in 1911:

David West
in the 1911 England Census
Name: David West
Age in 1911: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: Lambeth Workhouse Schools, Infirmary and Home For The Aged, West Norwood S E
Occupation: SCHOOL
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration District Number: 25
Sub-registration district: Norwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 44-47
Piece: 2143

Another child there is a James West, 10, born Lambeth.
Don't see his birth, so don't know if he's a sibling or not.

this looks like him mother esther
ame: J West
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1881
Event Place: Clerkenwell, London,Middlesex, England
Registration District: Holborn
Residence Note: Bowling Green Lane
Gender: Male
Age: 14
Marital Status (Original): Single
Occupation: Printer
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birth Year (Estimated): 1867
Birthplace: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Page Number: 33
Registration Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 352/20
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Esther West Head Female 43 Summertown, Middlesex, England
E West Daughter Female 17 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
J West Son Male 17 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
J West Son Male 14 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
G West Son Male 16 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
D West Son Male 8 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England

yes this is correct about occupation and the family in 1901 ,
I have found david a west as a inmate/scholar on 1911 census

Joseph A West
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005

marriage: 1911 Edmonton, Middlesex, England

For our reference:

Joseph A West
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Joseph A West
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Rosetta West
Birth Place: Clerkenwell, London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Waterloo Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Piece: 402
Folio: 123
Page Number: 38
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph A West 33
Rosetta West 27
Rose L West 7
David A West 10/12

1901 he was a general labourer on Borough council
He and his wife Rosetta nee Saunders married 1893
the couple and 2 children had a removal order on them in 1902.
I haven't found them yet in 1911.

Maryb.

hi
what is josephs
occupation in 1901 and 1911

thanks for your input flip

Ancestry has gone down for me, but the bowling green 1881 census looks possible, the children have the right initials and ages including a D (David Andrew?)reg Holborn 1872 with mmn Skinner - but a bit of speculation really