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Thank you. Will follow this up.

Yes - you were right on the birth AG but I wondered if the mother had then married, added to which was the name of Robert Smith given to us for George's father on his marriage cert and there you go.....................

Dea x

Oh good -that's the birth I found earlier - but then was looking for him with an unmarried mother in 1901.

Here we go:......................

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8 Wellington Row Philadelphia Fence Houses, Newbottle, Durham, England
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Robert Smith's Household Members
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Smith Head Married Male 37 1874 Boilersmith Philadelphia Durham
Mary Smith Wife Married Female 33 1878 - Rainton Durham
George Mellar Smith Son - Male 11 1900 - Rainton Durham
Annie Hodgson Smith Daughter - Female 7 1904 - Philadelphia Durham
Robert Smith Son - Male 5 1906 - Philadelphia Durham
Ada Smith Daughter - Female 1 1910 - Philadelphia Durham
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George Mellar Smith is actually the George Miller we are looking for!

Marriage took place after the birth of little George:

Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
Miller Mary Houghton 10a 616 Scan available - click to view
Smith Robert Houghton 10a 616 Scan available - click to view


MILLER, GEORGE
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in HOUGHTON-LE-SPRING Volume 10A Page 539


Dea x

Help...

My dad Clive was born in Hackney in 1934. His mother was Mary Ann Pickering who came from Durham.
Dad was adopted by Ettore and Ann Fugazza. As a child he was often taken to Durham, where he remembered visiting the Millers. He remembered the names George, Thomas and Betsy, in Chester le Street. I managed to find out that George Miller married Adelaide Pickering in 1920. I also found that Adelaide had a sister Mary Ann.

I have ordered George and Adelaide's marriage certificate, where George's father is listed as Robert Smith a boiler maker. Other witnesses appear to be Thomas Pickering, and someone who looks like Mary Pickering.

I have searched for a George Miller, and Robert Smith, but I am stuck, yet again. Any ideas, please??

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Name: Mary Ann Pickering
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Cox Green, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Offerton Painshaw
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County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: Bore Hole Low Lambton Penshaw
Occupation: School
Registration district: Houghton le Spring
Registration District Number: 553
Sub-registration district: Houghton le Spring
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 30062
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Pickering 62
Thomas Pickering 16
Susannah Pickering 37
Florence Pickering 13
May Pickering 11
Mary Ann Pickering 8
Isabella Pickering 5
Jane Pickering 3
William Hardy 65


Jane married as Jenny

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Name: Jenny Pickering
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1931
Registration district: Chester-le-Street
Inferred County: Durham
Spouse: Thomas Dawson
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 1112

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Name: Jane Dawson
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 2 Apr 1908
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 16
Residence Place: Chester-le-Street, Durham, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 58
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: FHCB
Registration district: 554-2
Inferred Spouse: Thomas C Dawson
Inferred Children: Leslie Dawson
Thomas C Dawson
Household Members:
Name
Thomas C Dawson
Jane Dawson
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Leslie Dawson
Thomas C Dawson
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Source Citation
The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1939 Register; Reference: RG 101/2838B

So they had children some of who, are still closed records

The two closed are older than Thomas. So look on freebmd for the names

May be worth following up on

Wonder whether any descendents of her siblings may know of some family history

That's good that that info was available on his birth certificate

Wonder then if that is the right death that I posted

Who was dad brought up by . They must have had some info on his mums birth family for him to be able to visit

Wonder if her last address in Durham can be found on old electoral rolls

My dad was born in hackney in a salvation army mother and baby home. His birth certificate describes Mary as a domestic cook, her last address in Durham, this address was that of George and Adelaide. Mary Ann then disappears, I have found a Mary Ann in London living alone in 1939?

I traced George because my dad remembered visiting George and May Miller. He has a birthday card from uncle George and Aunty May from his 9th birthday.

Sadly dad has dementia so I can't ask questions now.

Maybe. Depends on her actual birth date

Mary Ann Pickering
Death Age: 91
Birth Date: 21 Jun 1902
Registration Date: Sep 1993
Registration district: Westminster
Inferred County: Greater London
Register Number: C38C
District and Subdistrict: 2581C

Doesn't help there is another Mary ann Pickering born about the same time


Name: Mary Ann Pickering
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birtley, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Birtley
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County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 54 Morris Street. Birtley S.o
Registration district: Chester le Street
Registration District Number: 554
Sub-registration district: Harraton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 30123
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Pickering 40
Annie Pickering 34
Frederick Pickering 12
John Pickering 11
Mary Ann Pickering 9


How have you linked your Mary to Adelaide and that family

When was your dad born and where

That would place Mary ann and hopefully her occcuption

Ancestry doesn't have her after 1911

Different family though


Name: Adelaide May Pickering
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 10 Nov 1899
Baptism Date: 5 Dec 1899
Baptism Place: Houghton-le-Spring, Durham, England
Father: Thomas Pickering
Mother: Susannah
FHL Film Number: 1885559


So it's this sister then

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Name: Mary Ann Pickering
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Cox Green, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Offerton Painshaw
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County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: Bore Hole Low Lambton Penshaw
Occupation: School
Registration district: Houghton le Spring
Registration District Number: 553
Sub-registration district: Houghton le Spring
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 30062
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Pickering 62
Thomas Pickering 16
Susannah Pickering 37
Florence Pickering 13
May Pickering 11
Mary Ann Pickering 8
Isabella Pickering 5
Jane Pickering 3
William Hardy 65

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Name: Mary Ann Taylor
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: South Hetton, Durham, England
Civil Parish: East Murton
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County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 1 Ellen St Murton Colliery
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Easington
Registration District Number: 552
Sub-registration district: Dawdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 30044
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Taylor 23
Mary Ann Taylor 22
Edith Taylor 3
Edna Taylor 2
William Taylor 1/12

Source Citation
Class: RG14; Piece: 30044

Married 4 years 4 children born 3 still living

1901 census

Mary A Pickering
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: John Pickering
Mother: Elizabeth Pickering
Birth Place: South Hetton, Durham, England
Civil Parish: East Murton
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Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Murton Colliery
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Dawdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
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Piece: 4689
Folio: 93
Page Number: 1
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Pickering 56
Elizabeth Pickering 51
Archbold Pickering 26
Edward Pickering 22
William Pickering 17
Hannah Pickering 15
Mary A Pickering 12
John Pickering 4
Benjamin Williams 26. Boarder
Elizabeth J Williams 20
Elizabeth J Williams 1

A tree on ancestry has this

When Mary Ann Pickering was born in December 1888 in South Hetton, Durham, her father, John, was 43, and her mother, Elizabeth, was 39. She married Albert Taylor in April 1906 in Easington, Durham. They had five children during their marriage. She died as a young mother in October 1918 in Easington, Durham, at the age of 29.

So if his mum was Mary ann Pickering wouldn't his birth be reg as Pickering ?

Or am I reading it wrong Mary ann Pickering was a sister of George's wife Adelaide

Mary ann had the son who was adopted is that right

Hi, my dad was adopted. His birth mother was Mary Ann pickering, she was George's sister in law.

My dad lived in London with his adopted family but they used to visit the family in Durham.

I have tried to find out what happened to Mary Ann Pickering but drawn a blank.

I have started to find what could be links between his biological and adopted family, so I am seeing if I can link things.

All very complicated.... :-|

Who were your father's parents?

If George is a true uncle, one of them was his sibling.

The birth posted above - with MMN

MILLER, GEORGE HUMPHRIES Order
GRO Reference: 1899 J Quarter in DURHAM Volume 10A Page 404

BUT - I think this is his death

First name(s) GEORGE
Last name MILLER
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1900
Age 1
Death quarter 2
Death year 1901
District Durham
County Durham
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