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Thanks again everyone - this is fabulous!
We thought maybe William Thomas Casper (grandson) was the illegitimate child of Mary due to her age. Now I know this is right.
As for the births of the Casper children (other than Henry 1860) - they are a mystery for now.
The only Casper x Earnshaw marriage I can find is a Mary Ann CaspAr marrying Lewis Earnshaw 1864 in Colchester.
Cant thank everyone enough for all of the time taken to gather this info!
:-D :-D :-D
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ArgyllGran
A Lilly Day b1876 appears on the 1881 census living with Peter and Catherine and shows as Grandaughter. So this will be Ann Casper and Clark Days daughter.
On 1861 census Annie Casper b1854 London is shown as Peter and Catherines daughter but I cant find a birth. On the 1901 you mention her being Annie Spencer b1861 but that is a 7yr difference in age - could it be a different Annie?
Regards
Cassie :-S
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In 1901 Annie Spencer is listed as Robert Cochrane's mother-in-law - so presumably that's Annie , formerly Day, nee Casper - and presumably a mistake re YOB.
I don't see her birth anywhere, regardless of date.
It's definitely the right family in 1901 -
here's the son Charles's birth:
COCHRANE, CHARLES mms DAY
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 21
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Kucinta posted Annie and Clark's marriage to show Annie's father's name.
Here's the marriage from Clark's point of view - father John;
Clark Day
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Clark Day
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Date: 1849
Marriage Date: 1875
Marriage Place: Saint Mary Castlegate, York, York, England
Father: John Day
Spouse: Anne Casper
FHL Film Number: 1068537
Reference ID: 2:2B2FVM5
Clark Day
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Clark Day
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: 1854
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Day
Mother's name: Frances Day
Gender: Male
Where born: Melbourne, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Melbourne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Registration district: Pocklington
Sub-registration district: Pocklington
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 77
Piece: 3559
Folio: 39
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
John Day 40
Frances Day 45
Francis Day 8
Clark Day 7
William Hazel 17
Clarke Day
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Clarke Day
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Mate
Gender: Male
Where born: Melbourne, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Allerton Bywater
Ecclesiastical parish: Allerton Bywater
Town: Allerton Bywater
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Tadcaster
Sub-registration district: Aberford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 210
Piece: 4737
Folio: 50
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
William Day 22 - unmarried
Clarke Day 17 - unmarried.
ship name: "Frances of Melbourne".
Not married to Annie in 1881 ???
Clark Day
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Clark Day
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Eliza Day
Gender: Male
Where born: Melbourne, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: The Cora of Hull In R Aire Leeds
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Master (Barge)
Registration district: Leeds
Sub registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Piece: 4511
Folio: 46
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Clark Day 27
Eliza Day 22 - Cleethorpes, Lincoln
Matthew Burdett 17
Clarke Day
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Clarke Day
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Birth Date: 1854
Marriage Date: 1883
Marriage Place: St. Andrew, Great Grimsby, Lincoln, England
Father: John Day
Spouse: Eliza Burdett
FHL Film Number: 1542135
Reference ID: 2:3HKK4KF
So it looks as if Annie's marriage didn't last long.
Perhaps it was only rushed into because she was expecting Lillie.
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??
Marriages Sep 1885 (>99%)
Day Annie Poplar 1c 978
SPENCER John Poplar 1c 978
EDIT:
NO, that Annie is too old:
Annie Day
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Annie Day
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 47
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1838
Marriage Date: 16 Jul 1885
Marriage Place: St Leonard St Mary, Bromley, Tower Hamlets, England
Spouse: John Spencer
Register Type: Parish Register
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Thankyou thankyou for all this! Im going to spend a day typing this all up.
Regards
Cassie :-)
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And just for the record - although we've wandered a long way from the Caspar family:
In 1891 Clarke is on board ship - captain of the "Providence".
In 1901 he has a third wife, Emily, and three children - Bertha 3, William 2, and Enid A, 7 months. All children born York.
Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
Day Clarke York 9d 41
Richardson Emily York 9d 41.
In 1911 he's on board ship on census night again - master of the keel boat "Industry". Emily and the children are at home at 51 Heslington Road, York.
Deaths Mar 1937 (>99%)
Day Clarke 83 York 9d 9
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The Rennick connection still fascinates me. Having seen a Kate Renick was a witness at the marriage of Mary Earnshaw nee Caspar, I wondered if she were a child of John and Margaret Rennick, especially as ArgyllGran had already found a Margaret Rennick in the same area of York that the Caspars moved to:
Census 1881 that ArgyllGran posted
Margret Rennick
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Margret Rennick
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Frankfort (Prussian Nationality), Preußen
Civil Parish: York St Mary Castlegate<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 122 Friargate<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Marital Status: Widow
Occupation: Street Musician
Registration district: York
Sub registration district: Bootham
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors:
Piece: 4718
Folio: 108
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Margret Rennick 60
I think this might be 'Kate''s baptism at Holy Trinity (like John Peter Caspar and Johann George Caspar)
Name Eve Catherine Rennick
Gender Female
Christening Date 16 Jun 1846
Christening Date (Original) 16 JUN 1846
Christening Place HOLY TRINITY,KINGSTON UPON HULL,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Rennick<<<
Mother's Name Margaret<<<
and the marriage of the same lady in the St Mary Castlegate area of York, where the Caspars moved to:
Name Paul Parkinson
Birth Date 1845
Age 29
Spouse's Name Catherine Eve Renwick<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's Birth Date 1846
Spouse's Age 28
Event Date 1874
Event Place Saint Mary Castlegate, York, York, England
Father's Name Edmund Parkinson
Spouse's Father's Name John Renwick<<<<<<<<<
Kate in census 1871 with mother Margaret:
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Friargate Wilson Yard, St Mary, York, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
Margaret Renick Head - Female - - - Germany
Kate Renick Daughter - Female 23 1848 - Yorkshire, England
Elizabeth Renick Daughter - Female 20 1851 - Germany
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Really intresting that the Rennicks also appear to have ome from Germany. Maybe they knew the Caspers before or maybe they met after arrivibg in England. This tree and sub tree Rennicks) is getting bigger by the minute but its all great.
Hubbys on his way back from Germany now and we're planning a trip to York in the next few weeks. It'll be lovely to go to the addresses that the family once lived.
Thsnks again you wonderful people! :-D
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If John's death was the one in 1849 which I posted earlier, then Elizabeth born 1851 in Germany, wasn't his - unless her age is slightly "out "on the census.
Her marriage ?
Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
LEARMAN William York 9d 130
McDonald Margaret York 9d 130
Renneck Elizabeth York 9d 130 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
RICHARDSON William York 9d 130
And possible death ?? (Because I can't see her under either groom's surname in 1881 census.)
Deaths Mar 1881 (>99%)
RICHARDSON Elizabeth 29 York 9d 21
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