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Glyn ..... you're very welcome!

That was a pleasant surprise Sylvia. I was hazy about the Chester area and didn’t realise it was Cheshire. I thought it was Wales and that confused me. I did find a record that Frances came from Flintshire, and I imagine that must be a shire on the borders that no longer exists.
I have Welsh relatives too and they come from Monmouthshire but the boundaries have changed there too and sometimes they’re in one county and then in another.
I’m glad I asked about it so you could find out it was near your teaching job etc. Thanks for all your help
Glyn

I also giggled .... and googled to find out wehre it was, as OH comes from Chester.

To my amazement, I found out that it was part of Greater Budworth and now absorbed into Northwich, very close to where I taught school back in the mid 1960s!!!!

That’s great. So Mary and Johns parents names too. Thank you.

I had to chuckle at the place name Witton cum Twambrooks!!!! Apologies for anyone living there, but what an unusual and amazing name for a place
Glyn

IF above is correct, ??????????????


Diocese of Chester parish registers of marriages c1538-1910

First name(s) John
Last name Dimilow
Age 24y
Marriage year 1802
Marriage date 31 Jan 1802
Marriage place Witton Cum Twambrooks
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Wiggins
Spouse's age 23y
City or town Witton-cum-Twambrooks
County Cheshire
Country England
Reference item 3 p 71
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish marriages 1538-1910
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, United Kingdom

from image:-
Witnesses:- John Wiggins and Tanners Swindall

Just to complete information from FMP ........


Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms c1538-1910

First name(s) Ann
Last name Dimela
Gender Female
Birth year 1806
Baptism year 1806
Baptism date 05 Sep 1806
Place Chester, St John
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Dimela
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish baptisms 1538-1911

from image .........
Father occupation:- Chaise Driver
Born: August 21 1806


Frances Dimela ............. born March 21 1810 (I omitted to add this to the record posted earlier)


????????? the following children are siblings. The father's occupation is either Postillion or Post Chair .... which might fit with the Chaise Driver fro Ann and Frances. Needs careful checking!



Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms c1538-1910

First name(s) Mary
Last name Dimlow
Gender Female
Birth year 1804
Baptism year 1804
Baptism date 28 Oct 1804
Place Witton-Cum-Twambrooks
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Dimlow
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish baptisms 1538-1911

from image of Parish Register ........

Born:- Oct 14th 1803
John of Macclesfield, parents Thomas and Elizabeth Damilow
John's occupation:- Post Chair
Mary, parents John and Ann Winnington, of Witton


First name(s) Thomas
Last name Dimlow
Gender Male
Birth year 1804
Baptism year 1804
Baptism date 28 Oct 1804
Place Witton-Cum-Twambrooks
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Dimlow
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish baptisms 1538-1911

from image:-
Born:- 17 Oct 1804
Father occupation:- Postillion

Other information as for Mary

Thank you for that extra information. That’s helpful to know. It’s a challenge sometimes to think of different spellings for their names but you’ve done brilliantly.
Glyn

This transcription might also be found ..............


England Marriages 1538-1973

First name(s) Frances
Last name Dimelon
Name note -
Marriage year 1829
Marriage date 07 Oct 1829
Marriage place Chester
Spouse's first name(s) William
Spouse's last name Blake
Residence Chester, Cheshire, England
County Cheshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973


I suspect this one is for them, but might be for the Banns!

from FindMyPast ......

Diocese of Chester parish registers of marriages c1538-1910

First name(s) Frances
Last name DIMELOW
Marriage year 1829
Marriage date 11 Oct 1829
Marriage place -
Spouse's first name(s) William
Spouse's last name Blackey
County Cheshire
Country England
Reference Page: 42 Record number: 126
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish marriages 1538-1910

From the image of the Parish Register ........

William Blake, Carpenter, of this Parish, Bachelor
Frances Dimelow of this Parish, Spinster
Married by Banns
Witnesses:- Thos Peers and Elizabeth Dimelow
Signed by William Blakie and Frances Dimelow

It definitely is Blake in the first place on the image, but that could just be mishearing and / or mis-spelling by the Vicar, as William signed Blakie

Incidentally, both William and Frances and both witnesses coudl write their names.

Glyn ............

registration of births, marriages and deaths began on July 1 1837.

Before that date, all you can get will be the Parish Register entry.

Those are slowly being digitised, otherwise you would have to find out where the relevant Parish Register is now kept, find out if you can visit, ad then copy out the entry.

Sources online for Parish entries are the Mormon site, Family Search (records only, not the user submitted entries!); FreeReg, Online Parish Clerks sites (not every county covered), and the subscription sites Ancestry, and FindMyPast

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list

You have to sign up with Family Search, but it is free to do so and seems safe

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/online_parish_clerk

you might try this one as well for Cheshire ...

http://archives.cheshire.gov.uk/family-history/parish-registers-and-bishops.aspx

For helpers ref in case there is any crossover in the info? Re the Blackey side of the family.

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1371008?d=desc

I'm afraid you cannot get certificates for BMD events before July 1837

That’s amazing. I just knew you would all help me. I did have the wrong parents but all this extra information and the marriage record is fantastic. Hopefully I can find a marriage certificate to purchase now I have this extra information.
Thank you all. A great combined effort
:-D Glyn

from FMP


Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms c1538-1910

First name(s) Frances
Last name Dimela
Gender Female
Birth year 1810
Baptism year 1810
Baptism date 08 Apr 1810
Place Chester, St John
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Dimela
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish baptisms 1538-1911

From image:-

Father occupation:- Chaise Driver

FWIW .........

.......... OH was born in Wales, parents lived in Chester. :-D

His Mother went to a nursing home 10 miles away, just over the border. The border has since moved and he now would have been born in England.

That border has always been somewhat "fluid".


OH's mother was Welsh, but that was not the reason he was born in Wales ........... the nursing home was the closest one that she could go to.

Could have been born Wales - Chester is just about on the English/Welsh border, may have been the nearest place for baptism ???

So the 1851 census giving her birthplace as Wales would seem to be inaccurate

Following on from Mary's find, these also are on familysearch

Name Elizabeth Dimela
Gender Female
Christening Date 16 Dec 1807
Christening Date (Original) 16 DEC 1807
Christening Place St John the Baptist's, Chester, Cheshire, England
Father's Name John Dimela
Mother's Name Mary Dimela


Name Ann Dimela
Gender Female
Christening Date 05 Sep 1806
Christening Date (Original) 05 SEP 1806
Christening Place St John the Baptist's, Chester, Cheshire, England
Father's Name John Dimela
Mother's Name Mary Dimela

?? Frances Dimela born 21/3/1810 baptised 8/4/1810 in Cheshire by John and Mary Dimela.

Maryb.

Below might relate also...

(William occ. Joiner 1841)

Chris :)

Baptism: 22 Nov 1837 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Blackey - [Child] of William Blackey & Frances
Abode: Egypt Street
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: John Cheetham, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1837 - 1838, Page 165, Entry 1318
Source: LDS Film 1656422

Baptism: 22 Nov 1837 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Blackey - [Child] of William Blackey & Frances
Abode: Egypt Street
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: John Cheetham, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1837 - 1838

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html


https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1371207

(William occ. Carpenter on above)


Diocese of Chester parish registers of marriages c1538-1910 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Frances
Last name DIMELOW
Marriage year 1829
Marriage date 11 Oct 1829
Spouse's first name(s) William (Carpenter)
Spouse's last name Blackey
County Cheshire
(Wits. Thos. Peers, Elizabeth Dimelow)


Dimela Frances - 1810 Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Bishop's Transcripts Baptisms 1576-1906 Chester, St. John the Baptist, Cheshire, England (Find My Past)

http://cprdb.csc.liv.ac.uk/Live/v3.6/database.html

(Elizabeth on above also 1807)