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EDIT - no, can't be, your OP says he registered Emma's birth in 1859.
(No proof required though). will leave as a thought.
The 1851 census only shows 2 Isaac Prossers of the right age +/- 2 years to be this death.
One is "yours" with parents in Abergavenny 1851 aged 16 and a 17 year old Isaac an Iron Stone Miner ,b Bristol in Llanwenarth Ultra, Abergavenny
Name: Age at Death (in years):
PROSSER, ISAAC 32 Order
GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in MONMOUTH Volume 11A Page 21
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This I suspect to be the b Bristol one. Original states pob to be Winterbourne, Glos.
(Winterbourne is on the Northern fringe of Britol according to wikipedia)
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Market Street, Blaenavon, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Isaac Prosser Head Married Male 27 1834 Coal Miner -
Charlotte Prosser Wife Married Female 26 1835 Coal Miner Wife -
George Prosser Son Unmarried Male 4 1857 Scholar -
John Prosser Son Unmarried Male 2 1859 - -
Eli Furley Lodger Unmarried Male 21 1840 Coal Miner -
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Below also...
Chris :)
Wales, Monmouthshire Workhouse Registers, 1843-1929 (Find My Past)
Prosser Harriet — 1870 Wales, Monmouthshire Workhouse Registers, 1843-1929
(also 1869)
(Medical Officers Relief Book) age 42, Victoria St., Bronchitis)
(on that 1871 Marriage Notice (Workhouse Register) Thomas, Bachelor, occ. Plasterer. Harriett, Widow. Dwelling Place, Abergavenny for both)
Monmouthshire Merlin 20th October 1871
ABERGAVENNY CHARGE OF STEALING OIL. Robert Prosser, William Wenlock...young men, were indicted for attempting to steal oil, the property of the London and Northern Western Railway Company, at Abergavenny on the...
(probably matches his occ. on 1871, Engine Cleaner)
08 April 1898 - Abergavenny Chronicle - Abergavenny, Gwent, Wales
Death
PROSSER - On the 4th inst., at Bridge Cottages, Llanfoist. Harriet, widow of Isaac Prosser, iron moulder, aged 70.
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greyghost - on Emma's birth certificate Isaac is not just named as the father he is the person who registered the birth in 1859 so not the death in 1855.
Unfortunately the 1871 street name is fairly illegible but I think it says Victoria Street so that workhouse record looks right, presumably the hospital section. She was a laundres so probably prone to infections such as bronchitis.The Robert (nephew) is the son of Isaac's brother James.
in both 81 & 91 they are living at 52 Merthyr Street
I have not got Harriet's death certificate but I think the death in 1898 is the right one.
Thanks for the intro to that newspaper Chris. I have not seen it before
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I wonder if the death in the Bridgewater district in 1860 age 34 could be my isaac. I had not thought of looking elsewhere before. (more experienced now then when I was last looking).
Methinks it might be worth sending for that one.
Edit - no just found the probate matching that one and he was a master mariner
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You may well be right about the death but -
many births registered after Father dies, left etc but still in his name. Looked much better than Illegitimate and who's to say who actually registered a birth - I don't think any proof was required !
However, have at last found the 1861 census, badly written and therefore transcribed wrongly. Harriet does say here she is married. Posting for info, you say you have Emma on all census, so must have this one
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
..., Matheson Road, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Harriet Grosser Head Married Female 33 1828 Laundress Wiltshire, England
Emma Grosser Daughter - Female 1 1860 - -
Albert Ballard Nephew - Male 8 1853 Scholar Bath, Somerset, England
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What do you know of Brother James?, was he there for 1860 US Census (Robert not jumping out!)
Chris :)
(at below 1841 (with Roger, Isaac etc.) Birth about 1831)
Frogmore Street, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire,
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1861
James Prosser 33 - born Abergavenny
Elizabeth Prosser 26 - born Bridgend
Robert Z Prosser 8 - born N America (can't quite make out place)
George A Prosser 5 - born Port Providence
Living at 4 merthyr street Abergavenny
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So looks like Married here?, but wasn't 'away' too long...
Edits (just to add, not the 1853 Abergavenny Marriage, his Father was James)
Chris :)
(occ. Jobbing Smith 1861, could be him below)
Monmouthshire Merlin 29th September 1860
EMPLOYMENT.—Mary Ann Galliers, iron- monger, Abergavenny, charged James Prosser, a smith, with having left her employment contrary to agreement. Mr. Sayce appeared for complainant, and Mr. Price for defendant.- Complainant said that defendant was in her employment when Mr. Reece managed her business...
1881 (Find My Past) (Reference)
James Prosser Head Married Male 53 1828 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Blacksmith Journeyman
Elizabeth Prosser Wife Married Female 45 1836 Bridgend, Glamorganshire, Wales
Edgar Prosser Son Single Male 19 1862 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Loco Engine Cleaner
Emma Prosser Daughter Single Female 15 1866 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales No Occupation
Jennett Prosser Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Scholar
Oscar Prosser Son Single Male 7 1874 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Scholar
Alice Prosser Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Scholar
Frederick Elliott Visitor Single Male 14 1867 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England No Occupation
Roger Prosser Boarder Widower Male 64 1817 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Tailor Journeyman
7, Prospect Road, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire
1871 (Find My Past)
James Prosser Head - Male 43 1828 - Monmouthshire, Wales (Blacksmith)
Elizabeth Prosser Wife - Female 34 1837 - Glamorgan, Wales
George Prosser Son - Male 14 1857 - United States
Edgar Prosser Son - Male 8 1863 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Emma Prosser Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Jennatt Prosser Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Fredrick James Boarder - Male 3 1868 - Gloucestershire, England
Merthyr Road, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire
Birth
PROSSER, EMMA JANE (ARNOTT)
GRO Reference: 1865 S Quarter in ABERGAVENNY Volume 11A Page 55
Birth
PROSSER, JANET ELIZABETH (ARNOTT)
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in ABERGAVENNY Volume 11A Page 62
Birth
PROSSER, OSCAR (ARNOTT)
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in ABERGAVENNY Volume 11A Page 57
Birth
PROSSER, ALICE (ARNOTT)
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in ABERGAVENNY Volume 11A Page 52
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Thanks Chris. I am fairly certain that is the right James. I thought I found the marriage somewhere. Must check through my disorderly notes again!
It is Isaac who has been mainly bugging me for some time as he would be my gg grandfather.
I did wonder if the Harriet Jane who died age 2 in the ne of England was any connection.
Greyghost. Yes I did have that census thanks but had not written down the address.
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Not seeing anything online relating to a Burial for that 2 year old...
Elusive this lot, lol...and Edgar born 1862, not seeing his Birth, but below...
Birth
PROSSER, JAMES (ARNOTT)
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in ABERGAVENNY Volume 11A Page 57
Chris :)
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