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thank you again..I was wondering if you can find her around the 1950s to 60s..again no trace apart from when she gave birth to her last child Kevin..after that its like she disappeared..

Thank you
Amanda

Oh, jolly good Amanda.

That way, on here, the three of us can work together.

That death certainly seems to fit....That Care Home is in Seaforth.

Seaforth is a district in the Metropolitan Borough of Sefton, Merseyside

xxx

Yes totally agree xx

PricklyHolly have messaged you with the info I PMd to Amanda, addresses from eroll mainly. :-D

Amanda

It seems to me that both Nyx and i are sending you PM's backwards and forwards.

I don't know what messages Nyx is sending to you.......anymore than Nxy knows what messages i am sending.

To avoid confusion........i think it would be far better to post on here, rather then send us both PM's

Prickles xx

PricklyHolly that would possibly tie in with an eroll entry that I Pmd to Amanda, which ended around that time. Lots of info and possible contacts to be considered.

Good luck Amanda :-)

thank you all again..this really has helped me

cheers
Amanda

There are several variations of the Surname.....

Earley/Earle/Early

A "possibilty" perhaps....

???

Margaret Mary Early in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Margaret Mary Early
Death Age: 83
Birth Date: 8 Jun 1923 *****
Registration Date: Jan 2006
Registration district: Sefton South
Inferred County: Merseyside
Volume: -1
Page: -1
Register Number: SS62
District and Subdistrict: 032/1
Entry Number: 276


A "possibility" according to Amanda.

Prickles x

sending a PM with the last eroll address for Georgina Malgassian nee Pownall and one for their daughter, might be worth trying to make contact and ask about the family?

What is a bit odd is that on the 1939 Margaret Armstrong/Pownall is showing which would indicate she died before 1991 ( when the register was last used) or her death after that has been cross checked, there is no update of her name to Earley or anything else, which I would expect to see?

Information i have found so far......

Margaret Pownall in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Margaret Pownall
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1946
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Spouse: James W Earley
Volume Number: 10d
Page Number: 1230

(3 possibly 4 childen were born to the marriage)


James W Earley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: James W Earley
Mother's Maiden Surname: Dawe
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1917
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 131

His first marriage was in 1937

James W Earley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: James W Earley
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1937
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Spouse: Ellen F Williams
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 423

2 children born to the marriage

Births Sep 1938 (>99%)
Earley Victoria Williams Liverpool S. 8b 44

Victoria Earley in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980
Name: Victoria Earley
Gender: Female
Christening Age: 0
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1938
Christening Date: 19 Jun 1938
Christening Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: James Earley
Mother: Ellen Earley


Births Dec 1939 (>99%)
Earley Helen F Williams Liverpool S. 8b 67

Deaths Sep 1939 (>99%)
Earley Helen F 0 Liverpool S. 8b 70


1939 Register, in association with The National Archive
Ellen F Earley on the 1939 Register

Household (1 Person) Women's Hospital Catharine Street , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England

Ellen F Earley Patient 04 Apr 1915 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 13 25

Ellen died in 1944....

Ellen F Earley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Ellen F Earley
Death Age: 28
Birth Date: abt 1916
Registration Date: Mar 1944
Registration district: Liverpool South
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 15

James William Earley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: James William Earley
Death Age: 84
Birth Date: 12 Jul 1917
Registration Date: Jan 2002
Registration district: Chorley
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register Number: 85E
District and Subdistrict: 5831
Entry Number: 144

Will see if i can find any further info on Margaret.......

Online deaths only go up to about 2005/2006 ish.....so if she died after, we probably wont be able to find it.

Thank you once again..this is just amazing..you are all geneology ninjas!! Margaret Pownall married under the name pownall to James Earley Liverpool 1946..if that's any help..I am going to look through all this fantastic new info now..what a journey .sad news on Margarets sister Annie though..I wonder what happened to her..

have a great evening all x

Amanda

You'd need to check names and dates as not all the Pownalls listed will be connected but this might be of interest ,
http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/dbase/toxsearch.php


POWNALL Peter 51 years Labourer Workhouse Toxteth Park 5 October 1891 3518 70317 C 7

Peter's first wife died in 1934

Deaths Jun 1934 (>99%)
Pownall Rebecca 39 Liverpool 8b 140

He re-married in 1938

Marriages Dec 1938 (>99%)
Devereux Annie Pownall Liverpool S. 8b 45
Pownall Peter Devereux Liverpool S. 8b 45

Annie's son John who appears on the 1939 Register.....

Births Mar 1924 (>99%)
Devereux John MMN Gray Liverpool 8b 496

In the same house as the 1891 that PricklyHolly posted for Joseph and Margaret , presumable a brother to Joseph, the same first names run through both families.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Windsor View, Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England

Peter Pownall Head Married Male 52 1839 Smiths Labourer -
Emma Pownall Wife Married Female 51 1840 - -
Hannah Pownall Daughter - Female 18 1873 Servant -
Ellen Pownall Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar -
Richard Pownall Son - Male 13 1878 Scholar -
William Pownall Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar -
Thomas Edwards Nephew - Male 12 1879 Scholar -
Robert Edwards Lodger Single Male 30 1861 Navvy

Although wife is given as Annie here, the son Richard's mmn is Delaney

Pownall Household (4 People)
66 Chatsworth Street , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England

Peter Pownall 12 Aug 1893 Male Glass Bottle Blower Married 259 1
Annie Pownall 17 Dec 1893 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 259 2
Richard Pownall 11 Nov 1924 Male Shop Boy (Butchers) Single 259 3
John Devereux 10 Feb 1924 Male Shop Boy (Butchers) Single 259 4

British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Transcription

First name(s) Peter
Last name Pownall
Age 21
Birth year 1893
Birth town Liverpool
Birth county Lancashire
Birth country England
Service number 12806
Regiment South Lancashire Regiment
Year 1914
Series WO 364
Series description Wo 364 - First World War Pension Claims
Archive The National Archives
Record set British Army Service Records
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

wife Rebecca named as NOK


First name(s) PETER
Last name POWNALL
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1914
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ PETER POWNALL married
Rebecca Delaney
Spouse's last name Delaney
District Liverpool
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8B
Page 86

Sadly, Margaret's sister Ann Pownall died in 1938

Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Pownall Ann Pownall Liverpool 8b 185

Ann Pownall in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Ann Pownall
Death Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1917
Registration Date: Sep 1938
Registration district: Liverpool South
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 30


Ann Pownall in the Liverpool, England, Catholic Burials, 1813-1987
Name: Ann Pownall *****Residence: 19 Myrtle Gardens *****
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1917
Burial Date: 28 Jul 1938
Burial Place: Ford Cemetery, Lancashire, England

Sister Georgina married in 1950.....

Marriages Dec 1950 (>99%)
Malgasian Charles Pownall Liverpool S. 10d 762
POWNALL Georgina Malgasian Liverpool S. 10d 762

2 children were born to the 1929 Armstrong/Pownall marriage

Births Jun 1931 (>99%)
Armstrong Thomas Pownall Liverpool 8b 398

Births Dec 1935 (>99%)
Armstrong Jean Pownall Liverpool S. 8b 281

I can't for the life of me find the Pownall family on the 1901 census

Here they are in 1891...

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Windsor View, Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England

Joseph Pownall Head Married Male 25 1866 General Labourer -
Margaret Pownall Wife Married Female 25 1866 - -
Emma Pownall Daughter - Female 4 1887 - -
Elizabeth Pownall Daughter - Female 2 1889 - -
Andrew Kenna Lodger Single Male 31 1860 Shoemaker Ireland


Emma Pownall in the Liverpool, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Emma Pownall
Birth Date: 26 Jun
Baptism Date: 26 Dec 1887
Baptism Place: Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Father: Joseph Pownall (Labourer) Lodge Lane
Mother: Margaret Pownall


I can't see a baptism for Elizabeth.

I am not seeing births registerd for Elizabeth or Emma


POWNALL, PETER MMN SCANLON
GRO Reference: 1893 D Quarter in TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 135


Peter Pownall in the Liverpool, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Peter Pownall
Birth Date: 12 Aug
Baptism Date: 4 Oct 1893
Baptism Place: Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Father: Joseph Pownall (Labourer) Eden Street
Mother: Margaret Pownall


This must be one of the children who died......

Joseph Pownall in the Liverpool, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Joseph Pownall
Age: 0
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1896
Baptism Date: 3 Aug 1896
Baptism Place: Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Father: Joseph Pownall (Labourer) Isis Street
Mother: Margaret Pownall

Another one....

John Pownall in the Liverpool, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: John Pownall
Age: 0
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1899
Baptism Date: 20 Aug 1899
Baptism Place: Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Father: Joseph Pownall (Labourer) Godmin Street
Mother: Margaret Pownall

Thank you for your messages.

Spooky indeed Amanda.......

Are you looking for Margaret's death?

If so......Who did Margaret marry??

Did she marry under the surname of Pownall??

Or did she marry under the surname of her stepfather Armstrong??

When and where did the marriage take place??

just noticed something..I posted this on the 29th November and that was annie Pownalls birthday..spooky :-)