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Hi,

I need to find out if Philip Pearce from Romford born in 1859 deceased in 1934 is a relative of mine.

My father is Robert John Pearce born 7th November in roughly around 1959 is still alive born in Barking & Dagenham.

I am Frankie John Pearce.

Can you help?

Thanks.

You need to work back from your dad, or forward from Philip Pearce

On the face of it there's 100 years diff in the birth years so it will be a bit of a trek

Edited because my iPad did silly predictives

I am ever so slighty confused Susan.

On your other thread, you claim you are Jasmine, granddaughter of Irene and Alan.

Now you claim to be Frankie John Pearce.

Or have i got that wrong?

I don't understand your post Shirley

"Obey eface of it there's 100 years did in the birth years somut will be a bit of a trek"

:-S

census 1901
Romford
Registration District
Romford
Residence Note
Albert Road
Gender
Male
Age
42
Occupation
RAILWAY PORTER
Relationship to Head of Household
Head
Birth Year (Estimated)
1859
Birthplace
Ilford, Essex
Schedule Type
1
Page Number
1
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Philip Pearce
Head
M
42
Ilford, Essex
Eliza Pearce
33 Romford essex
Phyllis Pearce
Daughter
F
10
Hornchurch, Essex
William Pearce
Son
M
9
Hornchurch, Essex
Elizabeth Pearce
Daughter
F
2

Same family in 1911

Philip Pearce
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Little Heath, Essex
Civil Parish: Hornchurch

County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 54 Claremont Road, Romford
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Goods Porter G E R
Registration district: Romford
Registration District Number: 191
Sub-registration district: Hornchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 129
Piece: 9939

Philip Pearce 52
Eliza Pearce 43
Phyllis Pearce 20 - b Romford
William Pearce 19 - b Hornchurch
Elizabeth Pearce 12 - b Hornchurch

Married 21 years.

This could be his marriage, although, annoyingly, the 2nd female name is missing

Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%)
Burton George Romford 4a 395
Pearce Philip Romford 4a 395
Stanley Susan Romford 4a 395

Looking for Phyllis birth on the new GRO search - ???

PEARCE, PHYLLIS FLORENCE (mmn) PEARCE
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 349

Elizabeth's
PEARCE, ELIZABETH LAURA (mmn) PEARCE
GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 509

William's
PEARCE, WILLIAM HENRY (mmn) PEARCE
GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 438

As all the children have mother's maiden name Pearce, that must be Eliza J's birth surname

Prickly
I have edited because my iPad did stupid predictive text as it posted and I missed it

Yes the others thread re Meredith and Salmon says the poster is jasmine

What's going on ???????

Shirley........

I am bewitched, bothered and bewildered!

:-S :-S

The Account holder's name is Susan :-D

Indeed it is Det.

:-S :-S

Although its possible that Eliza and Philip had further children after 1911, its not that likely.

Susan - if your father is a descendent, you'd have expected it to be via William Henry Pearce 1892. That's assuming he survived WW1

There are numerous W H Pearce around, although this death seems to 'fit' with William Henry's birth

William Henry Pearce
Birth Date: 18 Mar 1892
Date of Registration: Sep 1972
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Bishop Stortford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 4b
Page: 32

If correct, Ancestry is linking it to the marriage

William H Pearce
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918
Registration district: Saffron Walden
Inferred County: Essex
Spouse: Nellie Law
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 1513
.........

TBH, It would be best to order a copy of the marriage certificate to see if he names his father as Philip.
.....

Coming back to your father - Barking & Dagenham didn't exist as registration districts in 1959.
It was either Ilford which covered part of Barking, or Romford which included part of Dagenham

There is a birth reg in each, either of which could be your father.
4Q 1958 Ilford
1Q 1959 Romford - if his birth was registered late, it would fall into the following year.

Can he tell you the names of his parents or you your paternal grandparents? We might be able to find a marriage for them and work back from there.