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Hi
Sorry about the confusion. My grand father was known as Ernest to me. His full name is Charles Ernest Albon and he was born in Potters Bar 6 February 1893. He married Margaret Davidson 27 Sept 1914. They had10 children I of whom died at a young age. Minnie 1919-1921.

The others are Margaret, Sarah, Minnie, Hilda, Irene, Susanna, William, Jean, Charles, and Betty.

My grandad moved north to Annistford in Northmberland and worked as a miner. Not sure when though.

With regards the mention of Walter, your right his full name was Walter Reginald Albon 1897-1936. He also never married

Looks like they might have had a daughter who died:

Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
Albon Minnie Louisa E Barnet 3a 293

Deaths Sep 1899 (>99%)
Albon Minnie Louisa E 1 Barnet 3a 202 Scan available - click to view

Births Mar 1893 (>99%)
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Albon Charles Ernest Barnet 3a 248

Chris :)

1911 (Find My Past)
Charles Auburn Servant Single Male Servant On Land Farm Labourer 18 1893 Potters Bar Middlx
Address Duke Of York Ganwick Barnet
Parish South Mimms
County Middlesex

A tree on Ancestry lists 7 children of William & Louisa:
Bertie William, 1892
Charles Ernest, 1893 (is this your grandfather Ernest?)
Harry, 1895
Walter, 1897
Reginald, also 1897
Samuel, 1900
Sydney, 1902

Edit: I believe Walter & Reginald were one and the same.

Births Dec 1896 (>99%)
Albon Walter Reginald

I'm still confused, Colin, about Ernest who you say is your grandfather. He doesn't show up on either the 1901 or 1911 census, unlikely to have been born after 1911, his mother was already 51. I had asked you when he was born but you didn't answer.

HI
Yes this is the sibling of Samuel. I understand he Sidney had 5 children. Mary, Sidney, Mabel, Donald and Jean. They are next on list to research.
I was aware of the fairground accident.
His wife I believe was Mabel Morgan but I have not confirmed this yet.

Thank you for this it helps me confirm I am on the right track

(is this your Sydney below?)

Chris :)

Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
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Albon Sydney Barnet 3a 323

Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%)
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Albon Sydney Morgan Barnet 3a 962
Morgan Mabel H Albon Barnet 3a 962


1939 Register (Find My Past)
22 Frampton Road , Hatfield R.D., Hertfordshire,
Sydney Albon 04 Oct 1901 Male Permanent Wag. Sub Ganger L N E R Married
Mabel E Albonling (Albon) 24 Nov 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married


Births Sep 1926 (>99%)
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Albon Mary S Morgan Hatfield 3a 1248

Deaths Jun 1937 (>99%)
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Albon Mary S 10 Barnet 3a 606


11 June 1937 - Western Gazette - Yeovil, Somerset, England

Girl's Fairground Death.
Mary Albon. aged 11, of Frampton-road, Potter's Bar, was killed on Saturday at a fairground when she was struck by a man as he fell, uninjured, from a roundabout.

Brilliant Thank you. This does help and it confirms my own thoughts

It doesn't look as if he did.
He's not living with a wife up to 1964, anyway, going by the electoral rolls.

If he did marry it would have been between 1964 and 1982, but there's no sign of any such marriage.

HI. No reason really, just trying find if he had been married or not. I can then move on

What makes you think he married?

Samuel Albon was born 2nd Dec 1899 and died 26th April 1982. He was a farm worker and lived ay 65 Oak Mere Ave Potters Bar when he died. The informant was his niece Margaret Ann Albon.
I am unable to trace any marriage records for Samuel.

Thank you for all information already supplied.

Colin

Margaret Ann living with Samuel was his niece (Daughter of Samuel's brother Charles Ernest- he married Margaret Davidson)

His mother's baptism:

First name(s) Sarah Louisa Mary
Last name Welch
Birth year 1859
Birth date 21 Oct 1859
Baptism year 1860
Baptism date 24 Jun 1860
Place Potters Bar
Father's first name(s) William
Father's occupation Drover
Mother's first names(s) Ann
Country England
Record set Hertfordshire Baptisms

I suspect this is the Margaret with Samuel (His niece?):

First name(s) MARGARET ANN
Last name ALBON
Gender Female
Birth day 15
Birth month 4
Birth year 1915
Death quarter 1
Death year 1995
District ELSTREE & POTTERS BAR
District number 5311
Register number 29A
Entry number 166
Date of registration mm/yy 0195
County Hertfordshire
Country England

1939:
Atkinson Household (3 People) 33 Buckingham Avenue , Friern Barnet M.B., Middlesex, England

Margaret Ann Albon 15 Apr 1915 Female Maid Companion Single 165 3
Francis John Atkinson 11 Feb 1883 Male Retired Advertising Manager Married 165 1
Florence Mary Atkinson 09 Nov 1887 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married

It's a pity Colin didn't continue on the same thread.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1360724

(William on above relating, by Son Walter)

Chris :)

Samuel is on ERs on Ancestry from 1919 - 1964, in Barnet Road, Potters Bar.

Living with him are a variety of siblings.

Up to 1939 (some years) there's also a Sarah Louise Mary Albon with him (and sometimes siblings).
In 1931 she's with Walter Reginald Albon.

Sarah's death:

Deaths Mar 1942 (>99%)
Albon Sarah L M 83 Edmonton 3a 1457


From 1945 onwards there's a Margaret A Albon with Samuel.

Just possibly Margaret's death??

Deaths Jun 1979 (42%)
ALBON MARGARET ANN 18FE1890 N TYNESIDE W 2 1135


I don't know who Sarah and Margaret are.

So far, if they're sister-in law / wife,(Sarah's presumably a sister-in -law) I don't see marriages to Albons.

1939

Albon Household (2 People) 184 Barnet Road , Potters Bar U.D., Middlesex, England

Samuel Albon 02 Dec 1899 Male Painter Single
Sarah L M Albon 21 Oct 1859 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed
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Presumably Sarah Louise Mary Albon is his mother:
Name: Sarah L M Albon
Birth Date: abt 1859
Date of Registration: Mar 1942
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a Page: 1457
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He's at the same address later too, with Margaret A Albon- Electoral register:

1946- 1964
184 Barnet Road, Potters Bar
Samuel Albon
Margaret A Albon
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Father's death:
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations)

ALBON William of 2 Oak Cottages Potters Bar Middlesex died 21 August 1921 Administration London 12 April to Louisa Albon widow.

William Albon

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
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Name: William Albon
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Age: 30
Spouse: Louisa Welsh
Spouse Age: 30
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Jun 1890
Parish: St Giles, South Mimms
Borough: Hertfordshire
Father Name: Samuel Albon
Spouse Father: William Welch
Register Type: Parish Register