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Susan

Susan Report 3 Jul 2016 22:34

My Grandfather's 2 sisters died of diphtheria which they caught when they kissed their baby brother goodbye according to family legend. I have traced the deaths of the 2 girls ( Lottie and Winifred Dowding) and they did indeed die of diphtheria, but altho I can find Eibie William John Dowding's birth in 1887 I can find no trace of his death. If the story is true it should be in April or May 1889 in the East end of London. Any help with this search welcomed.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Jul 2016 23:03

I don't have a sub to deceased online but have you checked the burial record for Winifred to see if they are buried together please?

last name
DOWDING
first names
WINIFRED
burial date
09 May 1889
authority London Borough Of Newham
location
West Ham Cemetery (Newham)


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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Jul 2016 23:06

summary
last name
DOWDING
first names
LOTTIE
burial date
09 May 1889
authority London Borough Of Newham
location
West Ham Cemetery (Newham)

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brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Jul 2016 23:06

Are you sure he died? Could this be him 1891? You don't say who his parents are.

It's a very strange 1st name isn't it!

1891

Name: Lubie W J Dowding
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's name: William J Dowding
Mother's name: Mary Dowding
Gender: Male
Where born: Plaistow, Essex, England
Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: West Ham
County/Island: Essex

Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: West Ham

William J Dowding 37
Mary Dowding 38
Lubie W J Dowding 3
Minnie L Dowding 1
Henry Fry 28

Researching:
Myatt, Hanks, Eccleston, Powell, Clungunford, Birmingham

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Jul 2016 23:09

Maybe?

summary
last name
DOWDING
first names
WILLIAM JOHN
burial date
08 March 1894
authority London Borough Of Newham
location
West Ham Cemetery (Newham)


EDIT

Not the above given the age at death but could he be the father?

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Jul 2016 23:14

Sadly, sister Minnie also died young:

Minnie Lilian M Dowding
in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Minnie Lilian M Dowding
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 10
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 33

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Jul 2016 23:19

Looks like Eibie / Lubie with mother and brother in 1911:

William Dowding
in the 1911 England Census

Name: William Dowding
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Plaistow, Essex
Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 29 Victoria Rd, Plaistow, E
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coach Maker
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 232
Piece: 9430
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Dowding 58
William Dowding 23
Albert Dowding 19

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Jul 2016 23:22

albert with his mother in 1901;

Albert Victor Dowding
in the 1901 England Census

Name: Albert Victor Dowding
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Plaistow, Essex, England
Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1569
Folio: 167
Page Number: 1
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Catherine Whitfield 65 - widow, needleworker
Mary Dowding 47 - visitor - widow
Albert Victor Dowding 9 - visitor

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Jul 2016 23:23

Looks like him to me ArgyllGran. The birthplace for his Mum is Wiltshire in 1891 and 1911 too.

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brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Jul 2016 23:28

I think this is the 'Lubie' Dowding from 1891 - his mother was born Wiltshire i both cases.

1911

Name: William Dowding
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Plaistow, Essex
Civil Parish: West Ham
Search Photos: Search for 'West Ham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 29 Victoria Rd, Plaistow, E
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coach Maker
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 232
Piece: 9430
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Dowding 58
William Dowding 23
Albert Dowding 19

Researching:
Myatt, Hanks, Eccleston, Powell, Clungunford, Birmingham

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Jul 2016 23:29

Eibie / William's marriage (1911 says married under one year):

Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)
Dowding William J W.Ham 4a 322
Keeler Arthur E W.Ham 4a 322
Powell Caroline M W. Ham 4a 322
Simkins Charlotte E West Ham 4a 322

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

malyon

malyon Report 3 Jul 2016 23:31

that William john died 1894 could he be the father


Deaths Mar 1894 (>99%)

Dowding William John 39 W. Ham 4a 45

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Jul 2016 23:48

Re the 1911 marriage of William -
William seems to have married Caroline (though I haven't found her in 1911 census yet).

Arthur E Keeler is with wife C E Keeler in West Ham in 1911, married under 1 year.

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2016 00:29

Sadly there are no Dowding/Powell births.

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Jul 2016 00:29

Malyon I did edit my post a couple of minutes later to suggest that it may have been the father William :-)

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2016 00:49

He obviously didn't like his first name of Eibie!

His death.........


William John Dowding in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: William John Dowding
Probate Date: 16 Jul 1931
Registry: London, England
Death Date: 17 May 1931
Death Place: Essex, England

Of 6 Altmore Avenue, East Ham , Essex.......At Portal House St Margaret's Bay, near Dover.

To Caroline Maud Dowding...widow.........Effects: £774 8s 9d



Deaths Jun 1931 (>99%)
Dowding William J 43 Dover 2a 1350




Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2016 00:50

Caroline Maud Dowding in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Caroline Maud Dowding
Birth Date: 25 Jan 1889
Date of Registration: Dec 1972
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: east Glamorgan
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 1683

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2016 00:55

Here is wife Caroline in 1911

Caroline Maude Dowding in the 1911 Wales Census
Name: Caroline Maude Dowding
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hay, Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Gelligaer
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 1 Carno Bute Rhymney
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: Under 1
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Registration District Number: 590
Sub-registration district: Gelligaer

Household Members:

John Powell 61
Sarah Ann Powell 58
Florence Jane Powell 37
Caroline Maude Dowding 22 <<<<<<<
Sydney Harold Powell 19
Ernest Tom Powell 16

John and Sarah married 39 years.......9 children born and living

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2016 01:01

Caroline Maud Powell in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Caroline Maud Powell
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Hay
Inferred County: Breconshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 119

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Jul 2016 01:06

Carrie Powell in the 1901 Wales Census
Name: Carrie Powell
Age in 1901: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father: John Powell
Mother: Sarah A Powell
Gender: Female
Where born: Hay, Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Hay
Town: Hay
Ecclesiastical parish: Hay St Mary
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Hay
Sub-registration district: Hay

Household Members:

John Powell 50
Sarah A Powell 49
George Powell 17
Leonard Powell 14
Carrie Powell 11
Sidney Powell 9
Thomas Powell 6

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

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