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We are searching for my maternal grandfather, Jack Marshall.
Born 1912-16
Originated from Hull, Howden or Driffield, Yorshire.
Possibly married Howden girl after 1940
Was in Haltwhistle working as a contractor for the British Army in 1938-39.
Possibly soldier already in the army prior to 2WW.
Had a friend called Jack Prentice (b. abt 1917) who he possibly met in Haltwhistle 1938-39

Do you have your mother's birth cert for her mother's maiden name?

Or is it not quite that simple?

Newcastle Chronicle - Saturday 22 April 1939

At Haltwhistle
After being postponed a week ago on account of the bridegroom being called home as his father was ill, the wedding took place at Haltwhistle Parish Church of Miss Violet Bell, second daughter of Mr J W Bell and the late Mrs Bell, and Mr John Prentice, only son of Mr and Mrs J Prentice, Powell Street, Flaxley Road, Selby.
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Marriages Jun 1939 (>99%)

Bell Violet Prentice Nthmbld.W. 10b 790
Prentice Jack Bell Nthmbld.W. 10b 790
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1939 Register Transcription

Prentice Household (2 People) 33 Powell Street , Selby U.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
John Prentice 18 Jun 1866 Male Drewers Labourer Retired Married 39 1
Sarah A Prentice 14 Feb 1881 Female Unpaid Doemstic Duties Married 39 2

Thanks Maddie- that's the parents of Jack Prentice.

This looks to be his birth:

Name John T Prentice
Mother's Maiden Name Ward
Registration Year 1915
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration district Selby
Inferred County Yorkshire West Riding
Volume 9c
Page 1966

Did Jack Marshall have a middle name?

As far as I can see these are the possible births, remembering that a man known as Jack was often registered as John

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Marshall John A Johnson Hull 9d 610
Marshall John H Parsons Hull 9d 585

Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Marshall Jack W Parsons Hull 9d 573

Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
Marshall John L O'Gram Hull 9d 482
Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Marshall John W Poupard Hull 9d 571

using the above names a possible marriage

Marriages Dec 1946 (>99%)
Marshall John A Hutton Nthmbld W. 1b 980

There's a marriage on Freebmd of a John L G Marshall in Howden in 1945. (Claire said he married a Howden girl.)

Maybe the one born 1916?

Looks like the bride was born 1926, so I won't post the records, in case she's still alive.
Easily found on FreeBMD.

Thankyou, now have more definate information on John Prentice, may find Jack or John Marshall who was a workmate of his in Haltwhistle 1938-39.
Possibly working on a bridge or railway.
Some suggestion that J Marshall was a soldier but not very clear
Am guessing J Prentice not on 1939 register due to birthyeat not outwith the 100 years?

(in case 1939 related)

Chris :)

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1907

PRENTICE John WARD Sarah A St Maurice, York York SMAU/3/319

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/index.php


Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)
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PRENTICE John York 9d 65
WARD Sarah Annie York 9d 65


Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
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Prentice John T Ward Selby 9c 1966


Births Dec 1918 (>99%)
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Prentice Jessie Ward Selby 9c 1583


1939 (Find My Past)

2 Alma Terrace , Selby U.D., Yorkshire (West Riding),
John T Prentice 17 May 1915 Male Warehouse Mill Worker & (Heavy Worrker) Married

Thankyou
I think John Prentice sadly died as a young father, accident at work in ? Selby late 1940-early 1950s
Will have a look at the Yorkshirebmd, that is good source

I have followed this thread and have wondered what you know Claire?

You must know your mothers name, the daughter of 'Jack' (unless you were adopted or some such)

If you post or PM the full details of what you know, you might receive some positive help.

Members have been 'digging in the dark' to try and help you

Now you've added that Jack/ John Prentice may have died 40s/ 50s, I'm doubting that the above John T Prentice is correct. A tree on Ancestry has this as his death:

Name: John T Prentice
Birth Date: abt 1916
Date of Registration: Mar 1969
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Ryedale
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 1b Page: 1087

which doesn't fit with your info.

As Gins said- add as much information as you can- even small details can help.

The above death appears to be related to this probate record

John Thomas Prentice
Died 11 1968, Annie Street, Selby
Admin (no name mentioned) £585

Added: I've sent Claire a PM asking for more details (it's easy to miss a request amongst all the posts)

The posters moms birth certificate does not show the fathers name (but there was talk of him being John/Jack Marshall) and she was later adopted

I don't think I need to go into detail, you can work out why, I'm sure. The posters mom is still living so I'm mindful of 'privacy' being respected

The information that Claire has supplied could well indicate that this may be 'Jack'


Marshall Household (3 People)
Wodd Bank, Haltwhistle R.D., Northumberland, England

John Marshall 19 May 1908 Male Dairy Farmer Heavy Worker Married 17 1
Mary Marshall 14 Apr 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Hw Married 17 2
Edith J Athey (Myers) 06 Jun 1922 Female Farm Servant Heavy Work Single 17 3

Name JOHN MARSHALL

GenderMale

Birth day 19

Birth month 5

Birth year 1908
Death quarter 4

Death year 1976

District NORTHUMBERLAND WEST

Volume1
Page2282

Death of the wife from that couple:

Mary Marshall
in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Mary Marshall
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1902
Date of Registration: Feb 1995
Age at Death: 92
Registration district: Northumberland North First
Inferred County: Northumberland
Register Number: 18A
District and Subdistrict: 6782
Entry Number: 274

Info from Claire indicates that Jack / John was "a couple of years" younger than Esther, and came from Hull / Howden / Driffield area.

So - assuming he was born in that area, and "came from" doesn't just mean that's where he had lived before going to Haltwhistle - as well as the births suggested by LancashireAnn, there are these other possibilities:

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
Marshall John B Pearson Sculcoates 9d 468

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Marshall John Milner Beverley 9d 191
Marshall John H Lynch Sculcoates 9d 352

Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
Marshall John Starkey Sculcoates 9d 319

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Marshall John F Heath Sculcoates 9d 225

Or maybe even this one:

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Marshall Jack Berry Beverley 9d 183

Plenty of choice!

All info much appreciated
We have a lot to go at now, and hoping we can locate an adoption file which may include a father's name
Am applying to GRO as a start