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Carol

Carol Report 16 Jun 2016 11:55

I am a virtual beginner to all this :-)
I have been tracing my maternal side and looking at the 1911 census have found that my grandfather, then aged 18, was living with his father, two older sisters and an "illegitimate" baby girl aged 1. This is a complete surprise to me and grandads youngest daughter, my aunt. How on earth can I find out more about this child? Such as who was the father/mother? Did she survive?

Thanks for your time
Carol

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2016 12:02

Hi Carol

Can you give us the details of the 1911 census.

When and where was your Grandfather born......and who were his parents?

Perhaps the child belonged to one of the sisters?

A copy of the child's birth cert would tell you who the parent/parents were.

Carol

Carol Report 16 Jun 2016 12:08

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/record/viewimage?recordid=gbc/1911/rg14/17314/0079/4&mediaid=gbc/1911/rg14/17314/0079


Grandfather born 25/12/1893
Parents: William Blencowe and Theresa Carpenter. Still trying to find more about his mother. I believe she died quite young and that is why she is not on the 1911 census. Hope this helps

safc

safc Report 16 Jun 2016 12:12


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7 Black Lake West Bromwich, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
William Blencowe Head Widower Male Carter 47 1864 Bicester Oxon
Transcription
Amelia May Carpenter Blencowe Daughter Single Female - 26 1885 Banbury Oxon
Transcription
Elizabeth Blencowe Daughter Single Female Envelope Machinist 22 1889 Westbromwich Stafs
Transcription
William Charley Blencowe Son Single Male Relief Stamper 18 1893 Westbromwich Stafs
Transcription
Elizabeth May Blencowe Illegitimate - Female - 1 1910 Westbromwich Staffs

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2016 12:13

For info......

William Charles Blencowe in the 1911 England Census

Name:
William Charles Blencowe
Age in 1911:18
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Civil Parish:West Bromwich
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 7 Black Lake, West Bromwich
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Relief stamper
Registration district: West Bromwich

Household Members:


William Blencowe 49
Amelia May Carpenter Blencowe 26
Elizabeth Blencowe 22
William Charles Blencowe 18
Elizabeth May Blencowe 1

safc

safc Report 16 Jun 2016 12:15

Births Mar 1910 (>99%)
BLENCOWE Elizabeth May W Bromwich 6b 869

safc

safc Report 16 Jun 2016 12:26

????

just because its the same area


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
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First name(s) ELIZABETH M
Last name BLENCOWE
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1928
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ ELIZABETH M BLENCOWE married
JOHN T DAVIES
Spouse's last name DAVIES
District WEST BROMWICH
District number -
County Staffordshire
Country England
Volume 6B
Page 1748
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2016 12:30

Father William is also a widower on the 1901 census.

This is wife Theresa's death registration.......


Deaths Jun 1898 (>99%)
Blencow Theresa 35 W. Bromwich 6b 503

Carol

Carol Report 16 Jun 2016 12:32

Thank you, I'll try and move forward with this info. Is the 1921 census available online?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2016 12:39

No............not until 2021.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2016 12:42

On the 1891 census, it gives Therea's year of birth as......1866 Banbury, Oxfordshire.

The death reg I posted gives her birth year as 1863

Theresa Blencow in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Theresa Blencow
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 503

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Jun 2016 12:47


this death would tie with the birth qtr

First name(s) ELIZABETH MAY
Last name DAVIES
Gender Female
Birth day 1
Birth month 2
Birth year 1910
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1974
District WALSALL
County Staffordshire
Volume 9B
Page 1991
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2016 12:48

Marriages Jun 1884 (>99%)
Blencowe William Banbury 3a 1204
CARPENTER Theresa Banbury 3a 1204

There are no births registered for a Theresa Carpenter between 1882 and 1887

??

Teresa Carpenter in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Teresa Carpenter
Registration Year: 1866
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Banbury
Inferred County:Oxfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 694

Do you know who her parents were?

Carol

Carol Report 16 Jun 2016 12:54

Thanks everyone! This is all a bit overwhelming for a beginner :-D Is it possible to view actual Birth. Marriage. Death certificates on here?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2016 12:58

No Carol.........not unless a parish record can be found.

The best place to purchase certificates is online here......

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

They cost £9.25

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2016 13:08

This is a free site we all use to search for birth's, marriages and death registrations....

From Sep 1837 to about 1975ish

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2016 13:38

Possibly Theresa/Teresa on the 1871 census......

???

Tereser Carpenter in the 1871 England Census
Name: Tereser Carpenter
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Carpenter
Mother's name: Mary Carpenter
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Neithrop
Ecclesiastical parish: Banbury St Mary
Town: Neithrop
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Banbury
Sub-registration district: Banbury

Household Members:


Joseph Carpenter 48 Banbury, Oxfordshire, England (News Agent)
Mary Carpenter 46 Neithrop, Oxfordshire, England
Josiah Carpenter 10
George Carpenter 7
Tereser Carpenter 5

Res: Factory Street

A copy of her marriage cert would confirm who her father was.

???

Teresa Carpenter in the 1881 England Census
Name: Teresa Carpenter
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Mother: Mary Carpenter
Gender: Female
Where born: Neithrop, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Neithrop
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England
Street address: 28 Factory Street
Occupation: Nursemaid
Registration district: Banbury

Household Members:

Mary Carpenter 58 Banbury, Oxfordshire, England (Widow) No Occupation
George Carpenter 16
Teresa Carpenter 15
Thomas Hughes 87 (Father) Widower

Living next door to a William and Mary Blencowe

Thomas Hughes is living next door to Joseph and Mary on the 1871 census.

Joseph Carpenter in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Joseph Carpenter
Souse Name: Mary Ann Hughes
Registration Year: 1845
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Banbury
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 16
Page: 33

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2016 14:23

There were 8 children born to the Davies/Blencowe marriage.

2 girls and 6 boys.

You can check them out on the FreeBMD link I posted for you earlier.

Prickles 'o))

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2016 14:28

It seems the first child born died at the age of 6......

Edna M Davies in the England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name:Edna M Davies
Mother's Maiden Surname: Blencowe
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1929
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 1198

Edna M Davies in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Edna M Davies
Birth Date: abt 1929
Date of Registration: Dec 1935
Age at Death: 6
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 730

The second child born didn't make it either.......... :-(

William E Davies in the England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: William E Davies
Mother's Maiden Surname: Blencowe
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1932
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 1189

William E Davies in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: William E Davies
Birth Date: abt 1932
Date of Registration: Mar 1932
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1032

Gee

Gee Report 16 Jun 2016 15:08

1939 Register
Davies Household (4 People)
36 Carris Brooke Road , West Bromwich C.B., Staffordshire, England

James C Davies 14 May 1937 Male Under School Age Single 351 4
John T Davies 01 Jan 1903 Male Iron Moulder Married 351 1
Ely M Davies 01 Feb 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 351 2
Thomas W Davies 30 Apr 1933 Male At School Single 351 3

NB: Ely is actually Eliz