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Hi All,

I have all BMD's for William and Lucy (all being well) when get spare cash will send for some certs.

Once again thanks to all you good 'peeps'

Brgds
1066ronnie :-D :-D :-D

Thank you AustinQ for your knid reply, I was thinking the same, so have worked on that assumption....

:-D

Brgds
Ron :-D :-D

William was born in Portsmouth where his parents married- his mother, Lucy, had moved to Crewe by the time of the 1939 register- the place where William married.-

From this, and his exact age given on the memorial notice it seems the Portsmouth birth is extremely likely.

Afraid not SAFC :-0

1066ronnie

do you have the marriage cert for william mchenry 1959 ?

I had William McHenry born Portsmouth, but, didn't think he was the one!
Doreen Mason married William in 1959

More pondering needed. Once again Thanks to all you good people for your time and effort :-D :-D :-D

Thank you for all the updates, will look thru them all shortly, and let you all know my outcome, amazing wat you kind 'peeps' find
Ron

In the absence of any further detail, I suggest that these families would be worth following (for the parents - William + Lucy) ?

????? - It is 'possible' that they had a further child just after the census ?

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
60 Naylor Street Crewe, Monks Coppenhall, Cheshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
James Snape Head Married Male General Labourer 46 1865 Hanley Staffordshire
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Sarah Ellen Snape Wife Married Female - 43 1868 Wheelock Cheshire
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Alfred Snape Son Single Male Railway Labourer 15 1896 Crewe Cheshire
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George Snape Son Single Male School 13 1898 Crewe Cheshire
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Fanny Snape Daughter Single Female School 11 1900 Crewe Cheshire
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Elsie Snape Daughter Single Female School 8 1903 Crewe Cheshire
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Leonard Snape Son Single Male School 5 1906 Crewe Cheshire
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Ellen Snape Daughter Single Female School 2 1909 Crewe Cheshire


Name: James Snape
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Date: 1865
Birth Place: of Wheelock
Marriage Date: 1886
Marriage Place: Christ Church, Wheelock, Chester, England
Father: Moses Snape
Spouse: Sarah Ellen Briley
FHL Film Number: 1656758
Reference ID: 2:3GWLSL6




On to William - this 'could' be his death ?

Name: William McHenry
Birth Date: 2 Jun 1908
Date of Registration: Dec 1974
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Congleton and Crewe
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 35
Page: 0399




1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

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First name(s) William
Last name McHenry
Relationship Patient
Sex Male
Occupation -
Age 3
Birth year 1908
Birth place Lancs Bolton
Address Wellington Road South Stockport
Parish Stockport
County Cheshire
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Stockport
Registration district number 443
Enumeration district 16
District number -
Sub district Stockport Second
Sub district number 5
Census reference RG14PN21401 RD443 SD5 ED16 SN9999
Piece number 21401
Folio -




I believe he belongs to this family:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
20 Oldham Street Reddish, Reddish, Cheshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
John McHenry Head Married Male Cotton Spinner 42 1869 Denbigh Wales
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Ellen McHenry Wife Married Female - 40 1871 Lancs Bolton
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Albert McHenry Son Single Male Piecer 17 1894 Lancs Bolton
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John McHenry Son Single Male Piecer 14 1897 Lancs Bolton
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Mary Ellen McHenry Daughter - Female - 12 1899 Lancs Bolton
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Lilly McHenry Daughter - Female - 10 1901 Lancs Bolton
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Stanley McHenry Son - Male - 5 1906 Lancs Bolton
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Hilda McHenry Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Lancs Bolton



Name: William McHenry
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Bolton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 388


Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
Kirkman Ellen Bolton 8c 487
McHenry John Bolton 8c 487

What we really need in order to prove this though are copies of those marriage certs.

Dea x

1939 gives date of birth for her as May 1st 1911.

This 'could' be her?


Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
Snape Lucy E Nantwich 8a 322

From Cheshire BMD site:
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1911
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SNAPE Lucy E Crewe Cheshire East CR/158/093


Dea x

Possible for parents' marriage:

Marriages Sep 1934 (>99%)

McHenry William Snape Portsmouth 2b 1541
Snape Lucy McHenry Portsmouth 2b 1541

I don't have access to the 1939 register, but it appears that Lucy is living in Crewe, which fits. Possibly the closed record is William born 1935

1939
McHenry Household Crewe M.B., Cheshire, England
Lucy McHenry 1911
1 more person who is officially closed

According to the 1939 register, Doreen Mason was born 1933.

192 has a William and Doreen McHenry listed in Crewe 2002.


Memorial notice in 2015 age 80

http://www.bmdsonline.co.uk/crewe-chronicle/memorial/mchenry-william/40825437?s_source=tmch_crch

Born 26th Feb 1935

Unusual that Doreen's entry to the 1939 register appears to be open although it appears that she was still living at the time of the memorial notice above.

Will available: https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
McHENRY WILLIAM
Date of Probate: 02 February 2015
Probate Number: 4487166
Date of Death: 09 July 2014
Grant and will Liverpool

A possible for William's birth based on the birth date:

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name MCHENRY
Birth year 1935
Birth quarter 1
Mother's last name SNAPE
District PORTSMOUTH
County Hampshire
Volume 2B Page 672

It took me a while to figure out that Crewe was not the wife's surname ...

there were births to that marriage, and all these people are surely living

if you are related to them, can you not ask them whatever it is you want to know?


their marriages are easily found but unfortunately both the children only seem to be on the electoral roll up to a decade ago, unless they are now not with spouses

http://www.searchelectoralroll.co.uk/

there are births for william mchenry in bdm 3 with no middle name

Off to my Bed now you good 'peeps; :-D :-D

Thanks again SAFC :-D :-D

Thanks Greyghost . I'm not certain he is from Scotland, but will see later :-D :-D

yes

but you can get 20 free credits

just follow this link and sign up

http://goo.gl/Qg5Gd9

you will need to send off for the cert as you can't see it on line because of scotland 100 year rule.

Hi SAFC have registered with scotlandspeople, see I have to buy credits!!!! Thats not an option at the moment :-0 :-0

You buy credits for Scotland's People - £7 for 30. 1 credit gets up to 25 results and a further 5 allows you to look at and download the certificate if over 100 years ago for births, 75 for marriages and 50 for deaths. More recent and the GROS reference number given allows you to order the certificate - £12 a go I think.

You can manipulate the site to a certain extent i.e. you could narrow down the birth years for the 2 results that safc has posted and also the county and the RD that they were born in.

There are quite a few McHenrys showing in Ireland too

Thanks SAFC do I need to subscribe to scotlandspeople?