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Thank you all for your input, I am now trying to sort through this info.
Thanks, Peter ( Charles )

I suspect John was also a Merchant seaman- the newspaper article, makes reference to John Wash's razor- when questioned, John said he bought the razor at Portland in America about 11 years ago (c1840).

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/thread/1230816

(a John Wash, Tollesbury on above)

Chris :)

Baptism
Place Tollesbury
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1075
Baptism date 20 Oct 1850
Person forename John Isaac
Person sex M
Person abode Tollesbury
Father forename John
Father surname WASH
Father occupation Dredger
Mother forename Mary
Notes D/P 283/1/8

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England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) JOHN
Last name WASH
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1849
JOHN WASH
MARY HARRINGTON
District LEXDEN
County Essex
Volume 12
Page 204A

This was the John mentioned in the article- it was Henry Harrington (the brother of Mary Wash) under suspicion- Perhaps this is Charles' brother?

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
East Street, Tollesbury, Maldon, Essex, England

John Wash Head Married Male 38 1813 Oyster Drudger Tollesbury, Essex,
Mary Wash Wife Married Female 36 1815 - Essex, England
John Isaac Wash Son - Male 0 1851 - Tollesbury, Essex, England
Henry Harrington Lodger Unmarried Male 20 1831 Agricultaral Labourer Salcott, Essex,
James Coats Lodger - Male 57 1794 Oyster Drudger Tollesbury, Essex, England
Isaac Coats Lodger - Male 12 1839 Oyster Drudger Tollesbury, Essex, England

There's an article about a murder in Tollesbury in 1851, the suspect lived with John Wash (dredgerman) and his wife. During the court case a Mrs Wash, wife of Charles Wash (dredgerman) gives evidence that she was at John Wash's house on the day of the murder.

It seems likely that John and Charles, both dredgermen, and both living in Tollesbury could be relatives (especially as Charles' wife was visiting John's house).

Charles Wash and Hedley King, dredeer- men, of Tollesbury, were summoned for having on the 5th inst. unlawfully disturbed (he bed of the Tollesbury and

(above comes up on google search, for Newspapers, could be more for him...(probably dredger man)

edits
25 November 1864 - Essex Standard - Colchester, Essex, England

WITHAM PETTY SESSION
Charles Wash, dredgerman, was charged for the third time With neglecting to support his wile and five children, whereby they had become Chargeable to the parish of Tollesbury. He left them in August last, and was ...”

Chris :)


Baptism
County Essex
Place Tollesbury
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 942
Baptism date 07 Dec 1845
Person forename Charles Stephen
Person sex M
Person abode Tollesbury
Father forename Charles
Father surname WASH
Father occupation Dredger
Mother forename Elizth
Notes D/P 283/1/8

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(from above link)

I wondered about this one- which might explain why he wouldn't be on the 1841:

Images says birth place Hollesbury- but I don't know where that is- thought it might mean Tollesbury??

Britain, merchant seamen, 1835-1857 Transcription
First name(s) Charles
Last name Wash
Age 22
Birth year 1819
Birth place Hollisbury
Archive The National Archives
Series BT112
Piece number 73
Date range 1841-1844

Unfortunately, the 1841 doesn't show relationships to the head of the household, only rounded ages, occupation and if born 'in county'.

Reposting to clarify

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Britton Street, St Luke Chelsea, Kensington Union, Middlesex, England


John Wash Male 55 1786 Not born in County - Ironmonger
Sarah Wash Female 55 1786 Not born in County
Charles Wash Male 20 1821 Middlesex, England (no occupation)
Maria Wash Female 20 1821 Middlesex, England (no occupation)
Ellen Wash Female 15 1826 Middlesex, England (no occupation)
Martha Wash Female 10 1831 Middlesex, England (no occuption)
Jane Wash Female 6 1835 Middlesex, England
............

The transcript of the marriage does not show the name of Charles' father. As it happened 3 years after the 1841 census was taken, it should have either shown the name (John?) or Deceased.
In contrast, Elizabeth's father is shown as Stephen, Deceased.

The 1841 posted by Maddie might be correct, but on the other hand it doesn't provide documented 'proof'. If a later census is available including one of the names on the 1841 in Charles Wash household, that might give more credence. Similarly if Charles named any of his children after his birth family.

DetEcTive.
Thanks for your input. He had a father named John ( see post from Maddie ).
I will follow up on the two witnesses as suggested.
Thanks, Peter.

As there is no father named on the MC for Charles Wash, then either he was illegitimate or didn't know his father's name (left/died when he was very young?)

Have you followed through with the witnesses, James Deadman & Eliza Ann Deadman? If there isn't a connection to Elizabeth's 'side', they might be related to Charles

I know about the census and when they changed. If you look Mike I was referring to the 1901 census that you put on this thread at 13.46 and that they both said they came from Tollesbury. Someone else could have given the information for them. They could have been deaf for example.

I have found in my own family many variations of ages and places of birth in the censuses.

Hi Mike.
We have Charles Wash's Marriage Cert. but no parent entry for Charles, only Elizabeth's father.
Regards Peter.

PatinCyprus , all the censuses up to 1901 were completed by an official.
1911 was the first one to be completed by the head of the household.

safc.
Thanks for your information, I will add this to my records.
Regards Peter ( Charles ).

FreeReg Marriage entry on 29 Mar 2016
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Field Value
County Essex
Place Tollesbury
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 70
Marriage date 23 Mar 1844
Groom forename Charles
Groom surname WASH
Groom age full age
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode Tollesbury
Groom occupation Dredger
Bride forename Elizabeth Mira
Bride surname PLAYLE
Bride age minor
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Tollesbury
Bride father forename Stephen
Bride father surname PLAYLE
Bride father occupation Deceased
Witness1 forename James
Witness1 surname DEADMAN
Witness2 forename Eliza Ann
Witness2 surname DEADMAN
Notes D/P 283/1/12

To all of the above Super Sleuths.
Thank you all for your info. on Charles Wash.
I will add this, which I think is correct, to my records.
Thanks again
Peter. (Charles ).

Agree the marriage cert could help a great deal.

Do have a query - at the age of 79 was someone else giving the answers to the census taker other than Charles and even Elizabeth?

Could this be Thames Ditton which was in Middlesex. In 1861 he says London.

Thames Ditton is south of the RiverThames not far from Hampton Court which is on the northern bank of the river. London would be the general area.

1844 Marriage cert should give you his father's name

I see your dilemma

1901

Charles Wash 79 - Birth Place:Tollesbury, Essex, England
Elizabeth M Wash 75 - Tollesbury, Essex, England