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I am looking for any information on Charles Wash born 1822 in Ditton Middlesex.
He married Elizabeth Mira Playle ( born Tollesbury Essex ) inTollesbury.
His actual place of birth and his parents are my main concern.
Awaiting some good news.

there is this one in 1841
John Wash Male 55 1786 -
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Sarah Wash Female 55 1786 -
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Charles Wash Male 20 1821 Middlesex, England
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Maria Wash Female 20 1821 Middlesex, England
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Ellen Wash Female 15 1826 Middlesex, England
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Martha Wash Female 10 1831 Middlesex, England
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Jane Wash Female 6 1835 Middlesex, England
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Census details
Family member first name JANE, MARTHA, ELLEN, MARIA, CHARLES, SARAH, JOHN
Family member last name WASH
First name(s) Charles
Last name Wash
Gender Male
Age 20
Birth year 1821
Birth county Middlesex
Birth county as transcribed MIDDLESEX
Birth place (other) England
Street Britton Street
Parish or township St Luke Chelsea
City or borough -
Town -
County Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Kensington Union
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 688
Book number 3
Folio number 40
Page number 24
Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

The marriage?

Marriages Mar 1844
PLAYLE Elizabeth Mira Maldon 12 231
WASH Charles Maldon 12 231

1851

Name:
Charles Wash

Age:28
Estimated birth year:abt 1823

Spouse's Name:Elizabeth Wash

Where born:Diton, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish:Tollesbury
Ecclesiastical parish:Rochester

Charles Wash 28
Elizabeth Wash 25
Francis E Wash 5
Charles Wash 4
Emma Wash 3
Sarah Wash 5 Mo

1861

Charles Wash 39 - London
Elizabeth Wash 35
Frances Wash 16
Charles Wash 14
Sarah Wash 10
Hannah Wash 8
William Wash 6
Mary Wash 3

I see your dilemma

1901

Charles Wash 79 - Birth Place:Tollesbury, Essex, England
Elizabeth M Wash 75 - Tollesbury, Essex, England

1844 Marriage cert should give you his father's name

Could this be Thames Ditton which was in Middlesex. In 1861 he says London.

Thames Ditton is south of the RiverThames not far from Hampton Court which is on the northern bank of the river. London would be the general area.

Agree the marriage cert could help a great deal.

Do have a query - at the age of 79 was someone else giving the answers to the census taker other than Charles and even Elizabeth?

To all of the above Super Sleuths.
Thank you all for your info. on Charles Wash.
I will add this, which I think is correct, to my records.
Thanks again
Peter. (Charles ).

FreeReg Marriage entry on 29 Mar 2016
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Field Value
County Essex
Place Tollesbury
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 70
Marriage date 23 Mar 1844
Groom forename Charles
Groom surname WASH
Groom age full age
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode Tollesbury
Groom occupation Dredger
Bride forename Elizabeth Mira
Bride surname PLAYLE
Bride age minor
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Tollesbury
Bride father forename Stephen
Bride father surname PLAYLE
Bride father occupation Deceased
Witness1 forename James
Witness1 surname DEADMAN
Witness2 forename Eliza Ann
Witness2 surname DEADMAN
Notes D/P 283/1/12

safc.
Thanks for your information, I will add this to my records.
Regards Peter ( Charles ).

PatinCyprus , all the censuses up to 1901 were completed by an official.
1911 was the first one to be completed by the head of the household.

Hi Mike.
We have Charles Wash's Marriage Cert. but no parent entry for Charles, only Elizabeth's father.
Regards Peter.

I know about the census and when they changed. If you look Mike I was referring to the 1901 census that you put on this thread at 13.46 and that they both said they came from Tollesbury. Someone else could have given the information for them. They could have been deaf for example.

I have found in my own family many variations of ages and places of birth in the censuses.

As there is no father named on the MC for Charles Wash, then either he was illegitimate or didn't know his father's name (left/died when he was very young?)

Have you followed through with the witnesses, James Deadman & Eliza Ann Deadman? If there isn't a connection to Elizabeth's 'side', they might be related to Charles

DetEcTive.
Thanks for your input. He had a father named John ( see post from Maddie ).
I will follow up on the two witnesses as suggested.
Thanks, Peter.

Unfortunately, the 1841 doesn't show relationships to the head of the household, only rounded ages, occupation and if born 'in county'.

Reposting to clarify

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Britton Street, St Luke Chelsea, Kensington Union, Middlesex, England


John Wash Male 55 1786 Not born in County - Ironmonger
Sarah Wash Female 55 1786 Not born in County
Charles Wash Male 20 1821 Middlesex, England (no occupation)
Maria Wash Female 20 1821 Middlesex, England (no occupation)
Ellen Wash Female 15 1826 Middlesex, England (no occupation)
Martha Wash Female 10 1831 Middlesex, England (no occuption)
Jane Wash Female 6 1835 Middlesex, England
............

The transcript of the marriage does not show the name of Charles' father. As it happened 3 years after the 1841 census was taken, it should have either shown the name (John?) or Deceased.
In contrast, Elizabeth's father is shown as Stephen, Deceased.

The 1841 posted by Maddie might be correct, but on the other hand it doesn't provide documented 'proof'. If a later census is available including one of the names on the 1841 in Charles Wash household, that might give more credence. Similarly if Charles named any of his children after his birth family.

I wondered about this one- which might explain why he wouldn't be on the 1841:

Images says birth place Hollesbury- but I don't know where that is- thought it might mean Tollesbury??

Britain, merchant seamen, 1835-1857 Transcription
First name(s) Charles
Last name Wash
Age 22
Birth year 1819
Birth place Hollisbury
Archive The National Archives
Series BT112
Piece number 73
Date range 1841-1844

Charles Wash and Hedley King, dredeer- men, of Tollesbury, were summoned for having on the 5th inst. unlawfully disturbed (he bed of the Tollesbury and

(above comes up on google search, for Newspapers, could be more for him...(probably dredger man)

edits
25 November 1864 - Essex Standard - Colchester, Essex, England

WITHAM PETTY SESSION
Charles Wash, dredgerman, was charged for the third time With neglecting to support his wile and five children, whereby they had become Chargeable to the parish of Tollesbury. He left them in August last, and was ...”

Chris :)


Baptism
County Essex
Place Tollesbury
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 942
Baptism date 07 Dec 1845
Person forename Charles Stephen
Person sex M
Person abode Tollesbury
Father forename Charles
Father surname WASH
Father occupation Dredger
Mother forename Elizth
Notes D/P 283/1/8

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