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Elias Hurdley died Prestwich, 1878

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Ian

Ian Report 25 Jan 2016 08:44

Right folks, lots to go on here, but much of it confusing or contradictory. However, comparing what you have come up with against what I already know, we can forget about Eardley records. I'm satisfied that the spelling is not enumerator error, but refers to a different family name. The different references all point one way and another to a North Wales origin, whereas the Hurdleys originate probably in what was Montgomeryshire, around Churchstoke, and my branch moved over to the Ironbridge Gorge (Broseley, Madeley, Coalbrookdale), from where my grandfather moved to Manchester in the late 1890s.
So I now need to focus on the Hurdleys you've come up with. Thanks again for these leads and I'll report back on what I find.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Jan 2016 22:33

http://www.eardley.org/marriages/m1871-1880.htm

1877 Elias Telegraph Clerk George Master Stonemason Jane Ann Holker Salford,Lancs

Chris :)

Caernarvonshire Marriages Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) GEORGE
Last name EARDLEY (Bachelor, occ. Mason)
Marriage year 1843
Marriage day 15
Marriage month Aug
Spouse's first name(s) MARGARET
Spouse's last name JONES
Parish BANGOR
Bride's first name(s) Margaret
Bride's last name Jones
Bride's age Full
Bride's father's first name(s) John
Bride's father's last name Jones (occ. Miner)
Groom's first name(s) George
Groom's last name Eardley
Groom's age Full
Groom's father's first name(s) Thomas
Groom's father's last name Eardley (occ. Steward)
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Page 181
Record set Caernarvonshire Marriages
(wits. Robert Griffiths, Jane Jones)


http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CAE/Bangor/Bangor_Do

(1851)

(family at 247 perhaps)


http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4463018/4463023/29/

(Death of George 1855)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Jan 2016 22:28

would he pay attention???


time for my afternoon coffee :-)

maybe the brain will work better afterwards

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Jan 2016 22:16

Shall we tell him? ;-)


Easy enough to find him in earlier censuses to confirm.

Andy

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Jan 2016 22:05

oops


another case of bad family tree!!

The tree owner has him born 1851, son of George and Margaret Eardley :-D

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Jan 2016 22:03

The other tree, has Elias Eardley married Sarah Salina


BOTH trees have him born in Bangor, father George Eardley, mother Margaret


England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

Name: Elias Eardley
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1933
Marriage Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England
Father: George Eardley
Spouse: Sarah Salina Atkins
FHL Film Number: 2081525
Reference ID: 34 P 17


The tree owner says he had a first marriage to Margaret Ann Huges (sic ............ ???means Hughes) October quarter 1906, Conway


Date of his death is from the Probate Record, died in Blackpool but residence was in Conway

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Jan 2016 21:58

The 1954 death can be ruled out as he was 78 at death, so born 1876.

hich will be this birth

Births Dec 1876 (>99%)
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EARDLEY Elias Clifton 6a 59


Here he is in Conway in 1911

Joseph Hughes 73
Jane Hughes 66
Elias Eardley 34 born Bristol
Margt Ann Eardley 32


Also fits with info posted by Sylvia.


Andy

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Jan 2016 21:57

It appears that Jane Ann Eardley nee Holker died on 2 Sept 1880 in Barton-upon-Irwell, of consumption

Manchester, England, Non-Conformist Deaths and Burials, 1758-1987

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Jan 2016 21:53

1861


NameElias Eardley
Age:9
Estimated birth year:abt 1852
Relation:Son
Mother's name:Margaret Eardley
Gender:Male
Where born:Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Civil Parish or TownshipBangor
Ecclesiastical parish:Bangor
County/Island:Caernarvonshire
Country:Wales
Street address:View image
Condition as to marriage:View image
Education:View image
Employment status:View image
Occupation:View image
Registration district:Bangor
Sub-registration district:Bangor
ED, institution, or vessel:6
Household schedule number:68
Neighbors:
View others on page
Piece:4351
Folio:10
Page Number:14
Household Members:
Name
Age


Margaret Eardley 40
John Eardley 16
George Eardley 13
Elias Eardley 9
Louisa Eardley 7

Andy

Ian

Ian Report 24 Jan 2016 21:53

Wow! That's an avalanche of helpful replies in no time flat. Thanks everyone. This is going to give me something to work on. I'll get back with update news when I have some. :-)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Jan 2016 21:53

Elias Eardley is on two family trees on ancestry

one has him marrying Jane Ann Holker in 1877 and dying in 1878

The other has him marrying Sarah Salina Atkins on 23 December 1933 in Derbyshire and dying in Blackpool on 18 Oct 1954


:-D :-D

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Jan 2016 21:48

following on from Chris' find .......

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Elias Eardley
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Bangor
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Anglesey
Volume: 27
Page: 298

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Jan 2016 21:46

James and Jane Ann had a child in 1876 under the name Hurdley

from lancs bmd ...........

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1876
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HURDLEY John Deansgate Archives+, Manchester Central Library SUMMERFIELD DEA/83/24

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Jan 2016 21:45

1871 (Find My Past)
Jane Jones Wife - Female 56 1815 - Caernarvonshire, Wales
Mary E Jones Daughter - Female 26 1845 - Caernarvonshire, Wales
Robert Williams Son - Male 24 1847 - Caernarvonshire, Wales
Jane Williams Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Caernarvonshire, Wales
Owen Williams Lodger - Male 19 1852 - Anglesey, Wales
Frederick Sleep Lodger - Male 18 1853 - Devon, England
Sarah Owens Servant - Female 15 1856 - Caernarvonshire, Wales
Elias Eardley Lodger - Male 20 1851 - Flintshire, Wales (Telegraph Clerk) ***
Street High Street
Parish Bangor
City Bangor
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Registration district Bangor
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 5727
Folio 46
Page 2

(if him)

Chris :)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Jan 2016 21:37

No .....


here's that James and Jane Ann Eardley in 1881


1881 Census

Name: Jane A. Eardley
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: James Eardley
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 15 Gilbert St
Marital Status: Married

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Deansgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 18

Piece: 3990
Folio: 122
Page Number: 36

James Eardley 30 General Labourer Railway
Jane A. Eardley 30
James Eardley 6
Edward Eardley 2
William Eardley 1

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Jan 2016 21:35

Andy .......

it is definitely Elias on the 1871 Census ........... so do we have James changing his name??


OOOPs ......no

I've got myself all confused!!!

I've just double-checked, and it is James on the image and transcript

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Jan 2016 21:33

It is definitely Eardley on the image of that Freebmd record

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Jan 2016 21:31

This might be the marriage for 1871 found by Sylvia

Looks like cases of enumerators writing down what they thought they heard.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1870 (>99%)
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Eardley James Chorlton 8c 708
Summerfield Jane Ann Chorlton 8c 708

Andy

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Jan 2016 21:27

seems to be quite a lot of Hurdley's in the Manchester area

eg the following baptisms

Elizabeth Hurdley 15 May 1853 Manchester, St Matthew James Hurdley,
Elizabeth Hurdley

Sarah Jane Hurdley 15 May 1853 Manchester, St Matthew James Hurdley,
Elizabeth Hurdley

and not too far away .........

Thomas Hurdley 18 Jun 1848 Eccles James Hurdley, Mary Burdley

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Andrew

Andrew Report 24 Jan 2016 21:25

Possible marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
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Eardley Elias Salford 8d 181
HOLKER Jane Ann Salford 8d 181

Andy

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