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In the 1911 census my granfatherRichard Fisher aged 36 (born1 875?) Westmorland married and is a pit sinker. Cannot find a marriage to my Grandmother Sarah Johnson yet she had at 4 children to him to my knowledge.Found a Richard Fisher in other census from Ulverston which is where my mother was told he came from,both son and father in 1901 iron ore miners.
Found a marriage in 1897 for Richard Fisher to Agnes Tyson in Blackburn father Robert Fisher which ties in with census returns.
Notice he is often refered to as Richard Jackson Fisher.
1901 census shows Richard b1877
Robert b1850 father both iron ore miners
Agnes j Fisher b1878 SIster in law
Elizabeth A Fisher B1897.Niece
Is this Richards wife and not the sister in Law?
Found an Agnes Fisher died 1912 Kendal and Elizabeth Fisher died 1905 in preston
Do not know if this is the correct family as in 1911 shows married but no children shown.
I think he was employed by Pease and sons and he died at my my grandmothers in 1922.He never mentioned any of his family.
How do I confirm if this is the right man?

What were the names of the four children please, and where were they born?

Eileen Mary Fisher Thorne Doncaster,
Amy Fisher Thorne
Richard Fisher Johnson Thorne
Wilfred Fisher Johnson Thorne

Hi Catherine
Amy I think was born Johnson but died Amy Johnson in1924

Hi Catherine
Amy I think was born Johnson but died Amy Fisher in1924

for ref:- the 1901 census mentioned:-

Name: Agnes J Fisher
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ulverston
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Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Ulverston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
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Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Ulverston
ED, institution, or vessel: 07
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4004
Folio: 141
Page Number: 27
Household schedule number: 181
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Fisher 51
Richard Fisher 24
Agnes J Fisher 23
Elizabeth A Fisher 4

.........................................the relationship shown on a census record is normally the relationship to the head of household.

sorry got the above date wrong apologies Amy was born 1920 as Johnson I think and died 1944? as Fisher

Yes I read that too but could not find who she was married to or who then Richard was married too?

marriage details
Marriage: 30 Oct 1897 St James, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Richard Jackson Fisher - 21, Carter, Bachelor, 39 Bastwell Road
Agnes Tyson - 19, Cotton Winder, Spinster, 39 Bastwell Road
Groom's Father: Robert Fisher, Miner
Bride's Father: James Tyson, Sailor
Witness: Edward Fisher; Hannah Tyson
Married by Certificate by: A. Moses Dixey Curate of Holy Trinity Ch. Blackburn
Register: Marriages 1895 - 1912, Page 49, Entry 97
Source: LDS Film 1849642

a witness at the wedding


Name Edward Fisher
Gender Male
Christening Date 16 Oct 1881
Christening Place Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Birth Date 09 Sep 1881
Father's Name Robert Fisher
Mother's Name Mary Fisher

ENGLAND BIRTHS AND CHRISTENINGS, 1538-1975

Indexing Project (Batch) Number C01978-8
System Origin England-EASy
GS Film number 1471901
Reference ID item 3 p 176

Where does the Thorne come in please?

sorry Maureen, but life is getting in the way again, so will have to go for now.

???
Name: Robert Fisher
Registration Year: 1871
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Ulverston
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 1072
Records on Page:
Name
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Robert Fisher
Mary Hunter

Thank you Catherine for your work done so far much appreciated

Hi MaddieI think that this was Richard Fishers father if I have the right Richard Fisher Still do not know who agnes fisher in 1911 census is married to .There is a Richard fisher married to Agnes Tyson in 1897 from Blackburn .which would possibly tie in but she is shown as a sister in law and not daughter in law in 1901
My Richard Fisher moved to Thorne Doncaster for work as shown in 1911 where he met my grandmother.

In the same family have just found a Richard Fisher born 1844 ulverstone and he was a miner also shown in 1861 census.Wonder if he married and had a son Richard ? getting confused now in case I have been following the wrong Richard, but the right family!

thank you Maddie have to log off today.

AGNES JANE
Last name TYSON
Birth year 1878
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District ULVERSTON
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8E
Page 793
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
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I think the relationships in 1901 has not been correctly recorded, Robert is twice ages's age so unlikely to be in laws and the above marriage fits with Robert and agnes, just a thought

maddie

right, the westmoreland Righard

1851
Edward Fisher Head Married Male 30 1821 Farm Lab Westmorland, England Transcription
Mary Fisher Wife Married Female 30 1821 Farm Wife Stanley, Westmorland, England Transcription
Richard Fisher Son - Male 7 1844 - Kendal, Westmorland, England Transcription
Margaret Fisher Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Kendal, Westmorland, England Transcription
Robert Fisher Son - Male 1 1850 - Pennington, Lancashire
Little View
Street -
Town -
Parish Osmotherley
City -
County Lancashire

1861
Edward Fisher Head Married Male 41 1820 Farm Labourer Westmorland, England Transcription
Mary Fisher Wife Married Female 42 1819 - Westmorland, England Transcription
Richard Fisher Son Unmarried Male 17 1844 Iron Ore Miner Kendal, Westmorland, England Transcription
Robert Fisher Son - Male 11 1850 Scholar Osmotherley, Lancashire, England Transcription
Thomas Fisher Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Osmotherley, Lancashire, England Transcription
Jackson Fisher Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Osmotherley, Lancashire, England Transcription
Edward Fisher Son - Male 2 1859 - Osmotherley, Lancashire, England Transcription
Mary E Fisher Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Osmotherley, Lancashire
Iron Ore Miner
Birth town Kendal
Birth town as transcribed KENDAL
Birth county Westmorland
Birth county as transcribed WESTMORLAND
Birth place (other) England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Street Tarn Close
Parish Osmotherley

interstingly his brother is called Jackson
his baptism

Name: Jackson Fisher
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 30 Jan
Baptism Date: 9 Mar 1856
Baptism Place: Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Father: Edward Fisher
Mother: Mary Fisher
FHL Film Number: 1471901
Reference ID: item 1 p 352

not very helpful, sorry

so the family without Richard moved to Ulverston

1881



Edward Fisher
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name Edward Fisher
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Registration District Ulverston
Gender Male
Age 60
Marital Status (Original) Married
Occupation Farmer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1821
Birthplace Westmorland, Westmorland, England
Page Number 23
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 4279/25
Affiliate Record Type Household
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Edward Fisher Head M 60 Westmorland, Westmorland, England
Mary Fisher Wife F 61 Westmorland, Westmorland, England
Thomas Fisher Son M 27 Lancashire, England
Edward Fisher Son M 24 Lancashire, England
John Fisher Son M 16 Lancashire, England

Edwards marriage ??

Name Edward Fisher
Spouse's Name Mary Jackson
Event Date 1846
Event Place Kendal, Westmoreland, England
Father's Name Robert Fisher
Spouse's Fathers name John Jackson

CITING THIS RECORDEngland-VR
GS Film number 1471687
Reference ID 2:3F9JZ

a tree on ancestry has

Edward and MARY AS PER ABOVE CENSUS
their son Robert born 1849 Pennington married Mary Hunter in 1871 and had Richard J Fisher 1876 Ulverston

Name Mary Hunter
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1871
Registration District Ulverston
County Lancashire
Event Place Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Volume 8E
Page 1072
Line Number 305

Mary Hunter probably married one of the following people
Name William Bullock
Name Elizabeth Butcher
Name Robert Fisher