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TILLY180

TILLY180 Report 16 Jan 2016 14:26

Can anyone help in finding the parents of Ellen Forbes Oakes born c1822 in Astbury Congleton. Parish records show father Robert and mother Catherine. There seem to be other children i.e. Robert 1814 William 1819 and Jane 1816 but I cant find them in1841 census
Thank you

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Jan 2016 14:47

Name: Ellen Forbes Oakes
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 10 Nov 1822
Baptism Place: Astbury, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert Oakes
Mother: Catherine
FHL Film Number: 1647808

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Jan 2016 14:55

Record Image Index-only record
Report issue
Name: Ellen Forbes Oakes
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 10 Nov 1822
Baptism Place: Astbury, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert Oakes
Mother: Catherine
FHL Film Number: 1647808
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ROBERT
Last name OAKES
Gender Male
Birth year 1815
Age infant
Death year 1815
Burial year 1815
Burial date 01 Jan 1815
Parish -
Burial place Astbury
Residence Astbury
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Oakes
Mother's first name(s) Catherine
Place ASTBURY
City or town Astbury
County Cheshire
Country England
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester bishop's transcripts burials 1576-1906
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
Cheshire Archives and Local Studies

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Jan 2016 15:02

WILLIAM
Last name OAKES
Age -
Gender Male
Birth year 1819
Birth date -
Baptism year 1819
Baptism date 31 Oct 1819
Church -
Place ASTBURY
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Oakes
Mother's first name(s) Catherine
Mother's last name -
County Cheshire
Country England
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester bishop's transcripts baptisms 1576-1906
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Jan 2016 15:05

If they were still alive in 1841 they could have been married.

Can you tell us how you got to these people please to give us a better veiw of the family?

TILLY180

TILLY180 Report 16 Jan 2016 15:15

Thank you for your response. Is there any way of finding out Catherine's surname and where she came from. Not asking much I know , family folk law implied there could be Scottish ancestry
thanks again

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Jan 2016 15:21

Which one of their children is connected to you please?

I have looked on Family Search for a marriage of a Robert to a Catherine as thats the only place you are likely to find anything.

Do you know who any of their children married? Without more info we can't do a lot for you.

Mel

TILLY180

TILLY180 Report 16 Jan 2016 15:21

Ellen was my gggrandmother she married Enoch Yates in Astbury and lived at Congleton Edge

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Jan 2016 15:24

Right thats better.

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Jan 2016 15:24

Name: Robert Oakes
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1815
Death Age: 0
Burial Date: 1 Jan 1815
Burial Place: Astbury, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert Oakes
Mother: Catherine
FHL Film Number: 1647807

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Jan 2016 15:30

So Enoch was born in Staffordshire.

1851

Name: Elene Forbes Yates
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Enoch Yates
Gender: Female
Where born: Coughton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Biddulph
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Congleton
Sub-registration district: Church Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 9c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 2167
Folio: 621
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Enoch Yates 30
Elene Forbes Yates 23
Aaron Yates 6
Sarah Anne Yates 4
Harriett Yates 2


Name: Enoch Yates
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Forbes Yates
Gender: Male
Where born: Biddulph, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Biddulph
Ecclesiastical parish: Mowcop
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Congleton
Sub-registration district: Congleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 2612
Folio: 42
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Enoch Yates 40
Ellen Forbes Yates 33
Aaron Yates 16
Sarah Ann Yates 14
Harriot Yates 12
Forbes Yates 9
Martha Yates 7
Mary Yates 7
James Yates 5
Enoch Yates 3
David Yates 8/12

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Jan 2016 15:52

which one married Enoch - sorry to put a fly in ointment

Record Image Index-only record
Report issue
Name: Ellen Forbers Oakes
Gender: Female
Birth Place: of Congleton
Baptism Date: 1 Jul 1827
Baptism Place: Astbury, Cheshire, England
Father: James Oakes
Mother: Ann
FHL Film Number: 1647809

Record Image Index-only record
Report issue
Name: Ellen Forbes Oakes
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 10 Nov 1822
Baptism Place: Astbury, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert Oakes
Mother: Catherine

census shows Ellen born c 1828

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jan 2016 15:55

could this be the marriage

Robert Oats
mentioned in the record of Robert Oats and Catherine Hernfield
Name Robert Oats
Spouse's Name Catherine Hernfield
Event Date 22 Oct 1810
Event Place Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Jan 2016 15:59

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1842

YATES Enoch OAKES Ellen Astbury, St Mary Cheshire East 1007/2/176

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

(from above)

Chris :)

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jan 2016 16:17

this might be them in 1841 census


Robert Oaks
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name Robert Oaks
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Leigh, Lancashire, England
Residence Note Morley Fold
Gender Male
Age 50-54
Age (Original) 50
Occupation Null
Birth Year (Estimated) 1787-1791
Birthplace Lancashire
Registration District Leigh
Book Number 2
Parish Leigh
County Lancashire
Page Number 22
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 513/15
Affiliate Record Type Institution
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Robert Oaks M NULL Lancashire
Ellen Oaks F NULL Lancashire
William Oaks M NULL Lancashire
John Oaks M NULL Lancashire

TILLY180

TILLY180 Report 16 Jan 2016 16:46

thanks again for your help.my gggrandmother must have been born c1827 so I have been looking at the wrong Ellen Forbes. Back to the drawing board

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Jan 2016 17:34

Tilly if Ellen was your gg grandmother then who was her child you are decended from please?

If you tell us that we may be able to help further.

When they were born and where and siblings please?

Mel

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jan 2016 17:36

Ellen Forbers Oakes
England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts
Name Ellen Forbers Oakes
Event Type Christening
Event Date 01 Jul 1827
Event Place Astbury, Cheshire, England
Gender Female
Father's Name James Oakes
Mother's Name Ann

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jan 2016 17:46

so the marriage in 1842 might not be your ellen's she would be about 15 yrs old

malyon

malyon Report 16 Jan 2016 21:01


Mary Oakes
England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts
Name Mary Oakes
Event Type Christening
Event Date 11 Mar 1840
Event Place Astbury, Cheshire, England
Gender Female
Father's Name James Oakes
Mother's Name Ann Skerratt