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Thank You mgnv....spent ages looking for Elijah...!!!

Now the probable Baptism of Thomas Francis...surely it must be him..!!!

St Catherines RC Church Dublin

Name
THOMAS FRANCISCUS FORDE

Date of Birth
29 November 1863

Address
BLOOKFIELD LOVE LANE

Father
FRANCISCI FORDE

Mother
ELIZABETH FARRELL

Further details in the record



Sponsor 1
JOSEPHUS KEEGAN

Sponsor 2
ANNA KEEGAN

Priest
M A FRICKER

St Catherine's....



Name
ELIZABETH FORDE

Date of Birth
7 March 1865

Address
LOVE LANE

Father
FRANCISCO FORDE

Mother
ELIZABETH FANELL

Further details in the record



Sponsor 1
JOANNES

Sponsor 2
MARIA SWORDS

Priest
J DANIEL

Eringobragh1916 - thank you! So kind of you to get this information for me, I can't thank you enough xxxxx :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

mgnv is the one to thank..I would have still been looking for Elijah !!! Still cannot fathom out why he used a different name and what was a "Potter" doing living/working in the Liberties..(the area of Dublin where St Catherines is situated)

Hello mgnv, the story in the family was that Elizabeth came over from Rathmines with Thomas (no husband was mentioned) interestingly, are there two different "husbands" one called Francisco Forde in Dublin and an English husband called Elijah Ford? perhaps the first husband died and Elizabeth met up with Elijah?

Thank you to all who have helped with the research :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Francisco? - really!!
How many folks in Ireland were called Francisco, or Josephus (like his godfather), or Patricius (like the kid baptized after him) - see:

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.catherine_baptisms_mf_1811-1880_ba_0574

As you can guess from the baptismal register headings, Irish RC ceremonies were conducted in Latin in the 19th cent (and most of 20th), and these included latinized forms of the forenames (with appropriate grammatical case endings - note his dad appears as Francisci - not Franciscus. Anglo-Saxon nouns (like modern German) had case endings, but modern English has almost lost them - only the possessive case ending (the apostrophe s) remains, although pronouns proved more resistant - e.g., the first person singular pronoun still has several case forms - I, me, myself, my, mine).



A couple of kms W of Trinity College:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3150252

Rathmines parish church, 1km to S of St Catherine's
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3649


I think Francis & Elijah are the same person - Malcolium

Have just had a look through through Church Records and found this. May be worth holding onto for future ref...


Marriage of JOSEPH KEEGAN of CLONDALKIN and ANNE FARRELL of CLONDALKIN

Parents : Bart.Keegan and Mary Keegan
Lawrence Farrell and Bessie Carroll



on 14 September 1863

Parish/Church/Congregation - CLONDALKIN

Area - DUBLIN (RC)