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re Phyllis Irene Hailwood

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phyll

phyll Report 26 Dec 2015 13:09

Does anyone have a connection with the above lady. She was 16 in 1911 and lived in barnsly. She is my grandfathers youngest sister and was one of 8 children born to John and Annie Hailwood

lostmeboardname

lostmeboardname Report 26 Dec 2015 15:10

check under Search to see if anyone else has her in their tree.

good luck
Jan x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Dec 2015 15:38

There doesn't seem to be a marriage or death for her on FreeBMD.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 26 Dec 2015 15:39

You seem to be the only member with Phyllis in your tree.

I can't find a marriage or death for Phyllis either.

Kath. x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Dec 2015 15:43

A possible in Australia?

Phyllis Irene Hailwood

in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Record Image View

Name: Phyllis Irene Hailwood
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1943
Subdistrict: Newtown North
State: New South Wales
District: West Sydney
Country: Australia

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Dec 2015 15:45

Unlikely that anyone with a connection will just happen by your post Phyll.

You can try clicking on Search - top right of this page and then Search all members trees. Input the details you have and if any matches show up you can click on Find out more and send a message to the tree holder. A reply is not a foregone conclusion unfortunately.

If you would like any help to find out more let us know and we'll see what we can do.

For starters is this the family you mean - John is a widower in 1911. He has started to answer some of the questions on the original (wrongly if his wife is deceased), but it does show that they had 12 children born alive - so 4 have died since birth.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Bungalow 23 Pollitt St Barnsley, Barnsley, Yorkshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
John Hailwood Head Widower Male Dealer In Furnace Cement 59 1852 Leigh Lancashire
Ethel Beatrice Hailwood Daughter Single Female - 22 1889 Sheffield Yorkshire
Phyllis Irene Hailwood Daughter Single Female - 16 1895 Sheffield Yorkshire

malyon

malyon Report 26 Dec 2015 16:28


Name Phyllis Hailwood
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Worsbrough, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Civil Parish Worsbrough
Ecclesiastical Parish St Thomas A St Luke
Sub-District Worsbrough
Registration District Barnsley
Residence Note Station Road
Gender Female
Age 6
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1895
Birthplace Sheffield, Yorkshire
Schedule Type 39
Page Number 6
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

John Hailwood Head M 48 Leigh, Lancashire
Annie Hailwood Wife F 42 Birkenhead, Cheshire
Eanest Hailwood Son M 22 Pemberton, Lancashire
Maud Hailwood Daughter F 21 Salford, Lancashire
Fred Hailwood Son M 19 Hyde, Cheshire
Percy Hailwood Son M 17 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Horace Hailwood Son M 13 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Ethel Hailwood Daughter F 12 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Victor Hailwood Son M 8 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Phyllis Hailwood Daughter F 6 Sheffield, Yorkshire

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Dec 2015 21:15

This seems to be the marriage for the person you found in Australia, Margee.

Registration Number Groom's Family Name Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Family Name(s) Bride's Given Name(s) District PDF Availability
270/1949 CAMERON JOHN HAILWOOD PHYLLIS IRENE SYDNEY


and 2 possible deaths. Both too late to be our girl from Sheffield but does not rule out the marriage above.


CAMERON Phyllis Irene Death notice 27NOV2006 Death 87 late of Sylvania, formerly of Chifley Daily Telegraph (Sydney) 28NOV2006
CAMERON Phyllis Irene (Peg) Funeral notice 27MAY2008 Death 72 at Moonby House Northern Daily Leader (Tamworth) 31MAY2008

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Dec 2015 21:44

Name: Phyllis Irene Cameron
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1949
Subdistrict: Annandale South
State: New South Wales
District: Dalley
Country: Australia


With John, a process worker at 40 Railway avenue.


Name: Phyllis Irene Cameron
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1963
Subdistrict: Newtown North
State: New South Wales
District: West Sydney
Country: Australia

With John, a metal polisher of 10 Erskineville Rd.



Name: Phyllis Irene Cameron
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1949
Subdistrict: Annandale South
State: New South Wales
District: Dalley
Country: Australia


51 Wassell Street, with John, a process worker.



Name: Phyllis Irene Cameron
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1972
Subdistrict: Matraville
State: New South Wales
District: Kingsford-Smith
Country: Australia
Residence Address: 51 Wasell street
Occupation: Home Duties


With John, a process worker.



Name: Phyllis Irene Cameron
Electoral Year: 1980
Subdistrict: Matraville
State: New South Wales
District: Kingsford-Smith
Country: Australia

With John and Valda Marie at 51 Wassell Street.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 27 Dec 2015 15:13

Welcome to the Community boards Phyll.



I will let Phyll know how to find her replies :-D

phyll

phyll Report 6 Jan 2016 18:48

thankyou for all the information provided, i am thrilled

phyll

phyll Report 7 Jan 2016 13:16

thanks once again for all help received. Phyllis Irene Cameran sounds very much as if she is my grandfathers youngest sister. Not sure what next step is to be perhaps i could post a message in an Australian newspaper. Any of you lovely people out there got any ideas. thankyou thankyou thankyou

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Jan 2016 19:51

the Phyllis Irene Hailwood in the 1943 electoral register who married John Cameron

... had either recently arrived in Australia, or recently turned 21


our Phyllis was born in 1894 ... Australia death records currently go to 1985

I don't see a passenger record for Phyllis Hailwood travelling to Australia before 1943

so I'm tending to think the PIH who married Cameron is a younger person


aha, here is a record of the death of the son John, son of Phyllis Irene Hailwood and John Cameron

http://www.geni.com/people/John-Cameron/6000000003617217597

the notes for Phyllis make pretty much no sense in terms of the date of birth

Phyllis Irene Cameron(Hailwood)
Birth: estimated between 1959 and 1965 [should be considerably earlier?]
Immediate Family:
Daughter of George Victor(Vic) Hailwood
Wife of John(Jack) Cameron
Mother of Bonello (Cameron); Elizabeth O'Connell and John Cameron
Sister of Jack Hailwood and Horace Hailwood

but there is a photo of an older couple

and the person who manages the tree seems to be related to her daughter's in-laws

who also identifies her parents as George Victor and Catherine

Births Mar 1892
Hailwood George Victor Sheffield 9c 539

who seems to be the son identified in the 1901 census as

Victor Hailwood Son M 8 Sheffield, Yorkshire

so either the person whose tree it is, is hopelessly muddled

... or that Phyllis Irene was a niece of your Phyllis Irene

I would wonder whether she was named for a deceased aunt

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Jan 2016 20:02

Geo V Hailwood travelled to Sydney in March 1911, unaccompanied

the geni.com page quoted above identifies that PIH as

Sister of Jack Hailwood and Horace Hailwood

the only death with parents George/Victor and Catherine to 1985 is

1758/1925
HAILWOOD ELIZABETH C
GEORGE V
CATHERINE
ANNANDALE

so he married sometime between 1911 and 1925 but I can't find a marriage (or before that in England) or death in the NSW index

Ryerson index has

http://ryersonindex.net/search.php

HAILWOOD George Victor
Death notice 12MAY1954 Death
Sydney Morning Herald 13MAY1954


there is a link at the geni.com page to contact the tree owner

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Jan 2016 20:13

could this possibly be your PIH?

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=132034744

Phyllis Irene Hailwood
Birth: unknown
Death: 1919
Note: Hailwood, Phyllis Irene
Buried on: 08 May 1919
recorded at: Kirriemuir Cemetery (Angus)
Burial:
Kirriemuir Cemetery
Kirriemuir
Angus, Scotland

she is the only Hailwood shown in that cemetery

that death certificate can be obtained at scotlandspeople.gov.uk


someone at this site has in their tree

Phyllis Hailwood 1949 Arbroath (which is in Angus)

so a relation there perhaps?

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Jan 2016 20:23

in 1954, George Victor Hailwood, herbalist, and Horace Jasper Hailwood, sheet metal worker, are together on the electoral roll

so this would seem to be George/Victor's wife's death

29645/1970
HAILWOOD CATHERINE
> JASPER
CECILIA
KATOOMBA


and I'm getting the feeling that since, now that I think, you are in Australia, all of this is known to you ...

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1357206

except I guess you would have known of that PIH and realised she was not the one born in 1894 in Sheffield ...

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Jan 2016 20:38

(Brother below, wife Jessie?)

Burial Register summary

Hailwood Horace Edward
Burial date 15 August 1967
Authority Angus Council
Location Panbride Extension B (Angus)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi


12 July 1943 - Dundee Courier - Dundee, Angus, Scotland

Silver Wedding
HAILWOOD - PATERSON. - At Gordon's Hall Pittenweem, on July 11, 1918, by Rev. G. Thomson, B.D., Pte. Horace Edward Hailwood, C.F.C., to Jessie, second youngest daughter of the late George Paterson. Present address - Bennet's Mill, Colliston, by Arbroath.


23 November 1946 - Dundee Courier - Dundee, Angus, Scotland

Death
HAILWOOD - At Panlathy, by Carnoustie, on Nov. 21. 1946, Jessie Paterson, beloved wife of Horace E. Hailwood. Funeral to Panbride Churchyard on Mon., Nov. 25th service in house at 12.30 p.m. Friends please accept this intimation and invitation.

Chris :)

(Parents John, Eliza Annie, Burials below)

http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1356500

(seems to be him)

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Jan 2016 21:00

another reason why it helps to keep closely related family in one thread ... or at least to let us know where the other family member threads are so we have a complete picture :-)

phyll

phyll Report 9 Jan 2016 12:31

thankyou for all your help and advice, very much appreciated

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 11 Jan 2016 22:10

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1357303

:-S