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Alexander Gordon b. Q1 1869 Easington Lane, Durham (Reg. Houghton Le Spring).

Alexander married Mary Jane Burnside Q1 1890 (again Reg. (Houghton Le Spring)

They both appear on the 1891 census with son John (5mths). Alexander died in 1893 and Mary Jane later re-married.

I am trying to find the names of his parents without going to the expense of buying his birth certificate.

There are some family trees on Ancestry giving the names as John and Jane but I feel they are incorrect and people have just been following other peoples incorrect findings and adding to their trees.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards, Ian

Do you know the name of any of Alexander's siblings?

Why do you think that John & Jane as parents are incorrect?

There is a Gordon family living in Hetton le Hole in 1871, head being Richard b.1825 Easington Lane with wife Elizabeth b.1831 Gilesgate, Durham.

They have seven children all born Easington Lane, but no Alexander mentioned, last one mentioned is Thomas b.1867.

The only trouble with this family is that on 1881 census Richard is listed as born Bradford, Elizabeth born Sheffield. The boys William, born Easington Lane, Thomas, born Haswell which is in the same area.

Perhaps Richard being a Hawker was 'trying to keep his head down'.

If these are Alexander's parents where was he in 1871 and 1881?

John and Jane have a son Alexander but he was born in Gateshead according to records. Gateshead is a fair way from Easington Lane.

His marriage certificate would also give the name of his father

I agree Sylvia but I was hoping someone may be able to spot something I had missed in my searches. It's looking like spending on a certificate but thanks.

Ian

I've had a good look but there is nothing concrete to confirm who Alexander's Father was so I'm afraid the only way forward is his Marriage Cert.

Please come back on this Thread to tell us who the Father was when you get the Marriage Cert; my money would be on John :-D

Could this be the family that is referred to on Ancestry?

I've added in the actual places of birth as listed on the original as transcript only gives County and also put children in age order. Father John is a Horse Dealer

There is an Alexander birth registration March 1868 in Gateshead

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Oakwell Gate, Gateshead, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Gordon Head - Male 38 1833 - Kendal, Cumberland, England
Jane Gordon Wife - Female 36 1835 - Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
Precilla Gordon Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Easington Lane, Durham, England
Jane Gordon Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Easington Lane. Durham, England
John Gordon Son - Male 4 1867 - Gatehead, Durham, England
Alexr Gordon Son - Male 2 1869 - Gateshead, Durham, England
Bridget Conelly Servant - Female 16 1855 - Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland, England

Alexander Gordon
England and Wales Census, 1891
Name Alexander Gordon
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Durham
Parish Hetton Le Hole
Ecclesiastical Parish LYONS
Registration District Houghton Le Spring
Residence Note Front Street
Gender Male
Age 22
Marital Status Married
Occupation Bank Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1869
Birthplace Co Durham Easington Lane
Page Number 7
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 4117/ 57
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Alexander Gordon Head M 22 Co Durham Easington Lane
Mary Jane Gordon Wife F 24 Co Durham Easington Lane
John Gordon Son M 5M Co Durham Easington Lane

Could be the child born Q1 Gateshead 1868 also died there

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ALEXANDER
Last name GORDON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1868
Age 0
Death quarter 3
Death year 1868
District GATESHEAD
County Durham
Volume 10A
Page 471

Births Sep 1859 (>99%)
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GORDON Pricilla Newcastle T. 10b 41

(Daughter perhaps)


(probably not, above looks to be with a Robert and Sarah 1861)

Chris :)

(for 1871 posted above)

1881 (Find My Past)
John Gordon Head Married Male 57 1824 Horse Dealer Kendal, Westmorland, England
Mary Gordon Wife Married Female 49 1832 - Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England
Jane Gordon Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Scholar Durham, Durham, England
Alexander Gordon Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Durham, Durham, England
Dinah Gordon Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
Street Mansfield Street
Parish Gateshead
County Durham
Registration district Gateshead
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 5040
Folio 93
Page 16


Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
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GORDON Dinah Newcastle T. 10b 75


Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Gordon Dinah Easington 10a 657
Maddinson Robert Tait Easington 10a 657


1891 (Find My Past)
Robert Tail Maddieson Head Married Male 19 1872 Coal Miner Hewer Houghton-Le-Spring, Durham, England
Dinah Maddieson Wife Married Female 18 1873 - Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Mary Adamson Servant Single Female 16 1875 General Servant
Street Front Street
Town Easington Lane
Parish Hetton Le Hole
County Durham
Registration district Houghton Le Spring
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 4117
Folio 55
Page 3

(also address for Alexander 1891 above, 4 images on, Bank?, not sure on that)

Thanks for your replies folks, sorry I couldn't stay on-line through the day but I have to see to my 90 year old mother-in-laws needs and also take my wife shopping.

greyghost - yes that's the family I referred to which I don't think is my Alexander's family.

malyon - that's the Alexander I'm looking for the parents of.

Chris Ho - your 1871 is as greyghost's and the one I found.

Looks like it's time to send for a certificate and again thanks for your time.

Ian

Yes, same 1871, but don't you think there might be a chance that Dinah from 1881 posted was his Sister, did you see them both at Front Street 1891?...


(and occupation of Alexander on Birth Cert. of John would be good also!)

Chris :)

1911 (Find My Past)
Mary Gordon Wid Widow Female - 78 1833 Beds Dunstable
Address Geo Street Murton Lane Hetton
Parish Hetton Le Hole
Census reference RG14 PN30078 RG78 PN1737 RD553 SD2 ED7 SN268


(if correct Parents, they look to be below)

1851 (Find My Past)
Thomas Robinson Head Married Male 42 1809 Hawker -
Jane Robinson Wife Married Female 49 1802 - Essex, England
Thomas Robinson Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Hawker Corbridge, Northumberland, England
John Robinson Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 - Lincolnshire, England
John Gordon Son-In-Law Married Male 23 1828 Hawker Kendal, Westmorland, England
Mary Gordon Daughter Married Female 21 1830 - Dunstable, Bedfordshire
County Durham
Hamlet Easington Lane
Registration district Houghton Le Spring
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 2393
Folio 397
Page 60


Marriages Sep 1846 (>99%)
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Gordon John Sunderland 24 276
Robinson Mary Sunderland 24 276


edits (perhaps that Bank 1891, as being one described below)

http://www.dmm.org.uk/educate/mineocc.htm

Hi all,

After a lot more searching without a result I have ordered Alexander's birth certificate from the GRO. Let's hope there is a father's name on it.

Will post again in the new year when the certificate arrives.

In the meantime Merry Christmas to all,

Ian

Hi all,

Firstly, Happy New Year.

I ordered Alexander's birth certificate from the GRO on 24th December and lo and behold it arrived yesterday 31st, what cracking service from the GRO.

Alexander born Elemore Lane, Hetton-le Hole 2/1/1869

It confirms Alexander's father was John, the Horse Dealer in the 1871 census, and his mother was Mary (nee Robinson). The census collector therefore must have been a little confused and put his mother as Jane.

Checking their marriage and other census records ages vary and places of birth also vary but no doubt it is the correct family.

Thanks again for your replies and interest,

Ian

Happy New Year, Ian


It looks as though John Gordon and Mary Robinson married in 1846

Marriages Sep 1846 (>99%)

Gordon John Sunderland 24 276
Robinson Mary Sunderland 24 276


They are on the 1851 Census, but no children with them. They are lviing with her parents

1851 Census

Name: John Gordon
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's Name: Mary Gordon
Gender: Male
Where born: Kendal, Westmorland, England
Civil Parish: Hetton le Hole
Ecclesiastical parish: Hetton le Hole
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Houghton Le Spring
Sub-registration district: Houghton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3c

Household schedule number: 238
Piece: 2393
Folio: 397
Page Number: 60

Thomas Robinson 42 b.ca 1809, Yetholm, Scotland, Hawker
Jane Robinson 49 b.ca 1802, Chetsford, Essex [Chelmsford, Essex]
Thomas Robinson 19 b.ca 1832, Cobridge, Northumberland [Corbridge, Northumberland], Hawker
John Robinson 14 b.ca 1837, Ortrip, Lincolnshire
John Gordon 23 Hawker
Mary Gordon 21 b.ca 1830, Dunstable, Bedfordshire

Address:- Easington Lane

still no children with them in 1861, except Mary doesn't seem to know where she was born!

1861 Census

Name: John Gordon
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Gordon
Gender: Male
Where born: Kindale, Westmorland, England
Civil Parish: Hetton le Hole
Ecclesiastical parish: Hetton le Hole
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Houghton Le Spring
Sub-registration district: Hetton le Hole
ED, institution, or vessel: 6e

Household schedule number: 175
Piece: 3756
Folio: 19
Page Number: 31

John Gordon 35 Hawker
Mary Gordon 30 b.ca 1831, Easington Lane, Durham

Address:- Easington Lane

1891...Didn't Jane live to be a grand age..!!



Name John Gordon
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Durham
Parish Hetton Le Hole
Ecclesiastical Parish LYONS
Registration District Houghton Le Spring
Residence Note Front Street
Gender Male
Age 72
Marital Status Married
Occupation Hawker
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1819
Birthplace Westmorland, England
Page Number 4
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 4117/ 55



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

John Gordon Head M 72 Westmorland, England
Mary Gordon Wife F 64 England
Jane Robinson Mother In Law F 102 Churchford


Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%)

Robinson Jane 103 Houghton 10a 316

indeed she did!!