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Alexander Langley born 1873 West Ham London

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Teekay

Teekay Report 4 Nov 2015 17:10

Hi, I am new to this and trying to find info on my great grandfather Alexander Langley born in 1873/4 in West Ham. He married Selina Elizabeth Blayney in 1893 (M. cert 1c 367) and he died in Sept 1901 aged 28 (death cert vol 4a page 220, line 200). I have just ordered the death cert, but now feel that this isn't gong to help me trace his parents. I cannot locate a Birth or Baptism record for him and am wondering how I will be able to go back further without it and knowing who is parents/siblings were.
I have tried variations of the Christian name...Alex etc, but no luck.
If anyone can help or advise me on alternative steps then I would be very grateful indeed.
Thanking you in advance, Trish Zachariah :-S

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Nov 2015 17:22

Alexander Langley

in the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
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Name: Alexander Langley
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Age: 21
Spouse: Selina Elizabeth Blayney
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Oct 1893
Parish: St James the Less, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Alexander Langley
Spouse Father: Richard Jonah Blayney
Register Type: Parish Register

He's a boot finisher, 3 Gloucester St., his father a slipper maker.

malyon

malyon Report 4 Nov 2015 17:23

Alexander Langley
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
birth: 1873
death: 1901 West Ham, Essex, England

malyon

malyon Report 4 Nov 2015 17:26

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Alexander Langley
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name Alexander Langley
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place West Ham, Essex, England
County Essex
Civil Parish West Ham
Ecclesiastical Parish St James
Sub-District Forest Gate
Registration District West Ham
Residence Note Albert Road
Gender Male
Age 27
Occupation TRAM CONDUCTOR
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1874
Birthplace Hackney, London
Schedule Type 142
Page Number 21
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Alexander Langley Head M 27 Hackney, London
Selina E Langley Wife F 28 Bethnal Green, London
Alex F Langley Son M 7 Bethnal Green, London
George H Langley Son M 5 Bethnal Green, London
Lena L Langley Daughter F 3 Bethnal Green, London
Charles R Langley Son M 0 Leytonstone, Essex

Teekay

Teekay Report 4 Nov 2015 17:38

Thank you sooo very much to the three kind people that have replied so quickly. I had picked up the death and marriage, but I still really need to find his birth cert I think.
Given that his father was also Alexander, but I have no idea of his DOB, how would I even begin to search for him?
Thanks again for support and advice.
Trish

malyon

malyon Report 4 Nov 2015 17:39

this could be his father

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Alexander Langley
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Alexander Langley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place St Matthew Bethnal Green, London, Middlesex, England
Enumeration District 21
Gender Male
Age 25
Marital Status Married
Occupation Cordwainer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1846
Birthplace Spitalfields, Middlesex
Entry Number 15
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/0480/0167
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Alexander Langley Head M 25 Spitalfields, Middlesex
Sophia Langley Wife F 24 Bash, Gloucestershire
John Langley Son M 2 Bristol, Gloucestershire

malyon

malyon Report 4 Nov 2015 17:43


Alexander Langley
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name Alexander Langley
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1900
Registration District Bethnal Green
County London
Event Place Bethnal Green, London, England
Age (available after 1866) 54
Birth Year (Estimated) 1846
Volume 1C
Page 103
Line Number 340

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Nov 2015 17:56

Given his stated Place of birth as Hackney on the 1901 census, I wonder about this as his family - so born after John and before Elizabeth who was also born Hackney. Alexander is not there but there is the Alexander printed out below away at school - Place of birth given as Barnet (about 10 miles from Hackney - the family may have been there when he was born but in late life he called Hackney home).

John b Bristol fits both this census and the 1871 posted by Malyon , looks as though Sophia may have died and Alexander Snr remarried to Mary Ann?

Alexander Seniors occupation is Cordwainer (shoemaker)


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
8, Mount Street, Bethnal Green, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander Langley Head Married Male 37 1844 Cordwainer Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Maryann Langley Wife Married Female 35 1846 Sewer (Seamstress) Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
John Langley Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Langley Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Hackney, Middlesex, England
Abraham Langley Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Hackney, Middlesex, England

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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Alex
Last name Langley
Relationship Scholar
Marital status Single
Gender Male
Age 9
Birth year 1872
Occupation Scholar
Birth town New Barnet
Birth town as transcribed NEW BARNET
Birth county Middlesex
Birth county as transcribed MIDDLESEX
Birth place England
House name Christs Hospital Hertford School
Street -
Town -
Parish Hertford St John
County Hertfordshire
Country England
Registration district Hertford
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 1425
Folio 108
Page 1

EDIT - see post 3 below showing this Alexander in 1891

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Nov 2015 17:59

Possible in 1881?


Alex Langley

in the 1881 England Census
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Name: Alex Langley
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relationship to Head: Scholar
Gender: Male
Where born: New Barnet, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Hertford St John
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street address: "Christs Hospital Hertford School"
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Hertford
ED, institution, or vessel: Chnsts Hospital Hereford School for Boys and Girls
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1425
Folio: 114
Page Number: 13

Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 4 Nov 2015 18:04

You may find information regarding pupils at the school

http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/data/education/hertford-christs-hospital.htm

Note the contact details in the yellow box.

Chris

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Nov 2015 18:06

This looks like the Alexander of 1881

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Kings Henrys Road, Hampstead, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Danheek J Langley Head Married Male 47 1844 Merchants Clerk Scotland
Agnes Langley Wife Married Female 48 1843 - Scotland
Elizabeth Langley Daughter Single Female 23 1868 - Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Alexander Langley Son Single Male 19 1872 Scholar Pembroke College New Barnet, Hertfordshire, England
Kate Langley Daughter Single Female 11 1880 Scholar New Barnet, Hertfordshire, England
Florence C Daris Servant Single Female 17 1874 Servant General St Pancras, Middlesex, England

Teekay

Teekay Report 4 Nov 2015 18:15

Thanks again to you all, I never expected even one reply, yet alone all this immediate help. I had found the Alex, aged 9 school census record, but had no link/evidence. It now appears that it's a different Langley tree. Thanks Greyghost for your research and input. Looks like a dead end on that front. But where, oh where is my Great grandfather Alexander?
:-S

malyon

malyon Report 4 Nov 2015 18:18

could not find a marriage for alexander and Sophia as in 1871 census perhaps they never married

Teekay

Teekay Report 4 Nov 2015 18:18

Thanks Chris in Sussex for the school link. I would never have found that. Had it been the right Alex, I would be a step further on now. :0)

Teekay

Teekay Report 4 Nov 2015 18:24

Thanks Malyon, I am still not sure if I am right to follow Alexander and Sophia or Alexander and Maryann, because neither make reference to Alexander Junior (born 1873/4).
But everyone's help is greatly appreciated.

malyon

malyon Report 4 Nov 2015 18:25

what do you mean found your gt.grandfather in census with selina his wife are you still looking for his birth

Teekay

Teekay Report 4 Nov 2015 18:35

Sorry Malyon, yes I have found Alexander and Selina and have a lot of family info on them, but not further back. I thought that I needed to find his birth record so that I can get info on my Gt Gt grandfather Alexander and family.

malyon

malyon Report 4 Nov 2015 19:59

wonder if this could be the father of alexander the one in 1881 census i cant see a birth in bdm in 1844

Alexander Langlee
England and Wales Census, 1851
Name Alexander Langlee
Age 8
Gender M
Birthplace Demorara British Subjects
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Schedule Type Institution

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Nov 2015 20:58

From Malyons find above - Amongst others listed - showing on original

Charles Langlee Head age 40 Chelsea Pensioner (Servant) b Doddington, Lincoln
Mary Langlee Wife age 45 b Skipton, Yorks
Alexander Langlee son age 8 b Demerera (also says South America on transcript)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 5 Nov 2015 07:27

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 (Ancestry)

Name: Elizabeth Longley
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Age: 22
Spouse: Albert Newton
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Jul 1891
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Alexander Longley (Shoe Maker)
Spouse Father: William Newton
Register Type: Parish Register
(Residence at Time for both, Bethnal Green)


Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
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Langley Elizabeth Bethnal Green 1c 357
Newton Albert Bethnal Green 1c 357

Chris :)


(if below, 1881 posted earlier)

1891 (Find My Past)
Alexander Laugley Head Married Male 47 1844 Shoe Maker Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Mary A Laugley Wife Married Female 47 1844 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Albert G Laugley Son Single Male 19 1872 Shoe Finisher Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Street Kay Street
Parish Shoreditch
County London
Registration district Shoreditch
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 253
Folio 150
Page 27


1871 (Find My Past)
Alexander Langley Head - Male 25 1846 - Middlesex Spitalfields, England (Cordwainer)
Sophia Langley Wife - Female 24 1847 - Gloucestershire Bath, England
John Langley Son - Male 2 1869 - Gloucestershire Bristol, England
Street Emma Street
Parish St Matthew Bethnal Green
County London, Middlesex
Registration district Bethnal Green
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 480
Folio 92
Page 42