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Hi, I would appreciate any information anyone could provide on the following family. I have been researching the family of Janet (nee Storer) and James Stewart of Gourock/Greenock.

I am having difficulty tracing the offspring of their eldest son James Stewart B1876 in Greenock. With help I found he enlisted in the Army, married an Edith Dodd in Chesire and had a son James b1913 in Yarmouth, Norfolk.In 1919 he returned to Scotland and settled in Dalmuir. I have not been able to find if he had any more children.

I have found a letter from my Great Uncle John Barrie from NZ (emigrated 1924) saying that on a visit back to Greenock he and his wife stayed with cousin David Stewart around 1975. I have not been able to account for this cousin and wonder if his father was James b1876.

Many thanks in advance for your assistance
:-)

For BMD,s for Scotland. you need the website Scotlands People which isn't a subs site . You have to purchase units to look at refs and then you can purchase a cert though them .

Units though are reasonable priced .

Hi Shirley

Thanks for your advice but I am already frequent user of Scotland's People and have had no luck. The problem is there are hundreds of James Stewart's and it's like looking for a needle in a haystack.

As there is no maiden name along side Scotland birth registration it would be a needle in a haystack trying to find any right births,the only clue could be if any of the Stewart children were given Dodd as a seconary name or even another family name if known,there could even be a naming patern,....

Hi Kay

Thanks

James Stewart grandparents were:

Maternal: James Storer and Mary Malcolm Angus
Paternal: James Stewart and Jane Turnbull

His older half sister (and my Great Granny) married and became Mary Barrie

I have ordered James Stewart's younger sister's death certificate.

Agnes Stewart married Robert Kelso, after he died Agnes came to NZ and then returned to Scotland around 1959ish and died in Greenock in 1968

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1910

DODD Edith Kersey STEWART James Adam Birkenhead, Civil Marriage or Registrar Attended Wirral BW/77/89

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php


Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)
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Dodd Edith K Birkenhead 8a 1016
Stewart James A Birkenhead 8a 1016

(is that it above?)


1911 (Find My Past)
Edith Stewart Wife Married Female Folder (Printing Works) 22 1889 Suffolk Ipswich
Address 25 Grange Avenue Liscard
Parish Liscard
County Cheshire
Registration district Birkenhead
Census reference
RG14 PN22065 RG78 PN1310A RD452 SD3 ED13 SN94
(Married under 1 year, no children, signed James Stewart)


Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
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DODD Edith Kersey Ipswich 4a 772

(1901, with Mother Elizabeth, Yarmouth, Norfolk)

Chris :)

Thanks Chris

James middle name is a surprise as Adam doesn't appear to be a family name.

According to a tree on Ancestry, James Adam Stewart's parents were James Stewart and Janet Scott.

Has this James been mixed up with yours, and is the marriage to Edith perhaps for the wrong person?

Or is the tree wrong?


James A Stewart

in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: James A Stewart
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Janet Stewart
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenock, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 564/2
Registration district: Greenock West
Civil Parish: Greenock West
Town: Greenock
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 77 Holmscroft St
Occupation: Message Boy Confectioner
ED: 22
Household schedule number: 150
LINE: 7
Roll: CSSCT1891_182
Household Members:
Name Age
Janet Stewart 52
Janet S Stewart 19
Margaret S Stewart 16
James A Stewart 15



Jas A Stewart

in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name: Jas A Stewart
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's name: James Stewart
Mother's name: Janet Stewart
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenock, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 564/3
Registration district: Greenock West
Civil Parish: Greenock West
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 37 West Blackhall St
ED: 19
Household schedule number: 65
LINE: 14
Roll: cssct1881_166
Household Members:
Name Age
James Stewart 47 - born Cupar, Fife
Janet Stewart 43 - born Kilmacolm
Mary M Stewart 19
John Stewart 15
Alexr Stewart 12
Janet S Stewart 9
Eliz Stewart 7
Margt S Stewart 6
Jas A Stewart 5
Annie S Stewart 1
Robert R H Stewart 3 Mo

There were two James Stewart births in Greenock in 1876.
As you're a frequent SP user, I hesitate to ask - but have you checked out the parentage?


1876 STEWART JAMES ADAM M GREENOCK OLD OR WEST /RENFREW 564/03 0227

1876 STEWART JAMES DEMPSTER M GREENOCK OLD OR WEST /RENFREW 564/03 1348

Janet Stewart

in the 1871 Scotland Census

Name: Janet Stewart
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Stewart
Gender: Female
Where born: Welmulcolse, Renfrew (mistranscription of Kilmacolm, probably!)
Registration Number: 564/3
Registration district: Greenock West
Civil Parish: Greenock West
Town: Greenock
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Inverkip Road Cot
ED: 34
Household schedule number: 113
LINE: 24
Roll: CSSCT1871_99
Household Members:
Name Age
James Stewart 37
Janet Stewart 33
Mary Hewart 7
John Stewart 5
Alexander Stewart 1
Susan Krogun 13



Marriage:

1863 STEWART JAMES
SCOTT JANET GREENOCK OLD OR WEST /RENFREW 564/03 0115

And (just for our reference - I know you have it already) this is the 1891 for the James you think is yours, I expect:

James Stewart

in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: James Stewart
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's name: James Stewart
Mother's name: Janet Stewart
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenock, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 564/1
Registration district: Greenock East
Civil Parish: Greenock East
Town: Greenock
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 11 Lauriston St
Occupation: Hammer - Boy
ED: 45
Household schedule number: 128
LINE: 19
Roll: CSSCT1891_180
Household Members:
Name Age
James Stewart 46 - born Dundee
Janet Stewart 44 - born Greenock
James Stewart 15
John Stewart 14
Ann Stewart 11
Daniel Stewart 8
Agnes Stewart 4

Thanks I have found James Stewart has somewhat perplexed me.

Yes the last reference you've given me I'm sure is mine. Going by sibling names and street address.

I must admit did go to bed worried as I knew Adam wasn't a family name.

I couldn't find my James Stewart in the 1901 census. I don't know what happened to James Stewart or who he married.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1277271

(just seen above, relating)

Chris :)


Flick Report 13 Aug 2011 22:50

Ancestry links his 1891 census entry to 1900 US census........my sub doesn't stretch to that record

Have you traced all of the other family members?

Name: James Stewart
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's name: James Stewart
Mother's name: Janet Stewart
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenock, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 564/1
Registration district: Greenock East
Civil parish: Greenock East
Town: Greenock
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 11 Lauriston St
Occupation: Hammer - Boy
ED: 45
Household schedule number: 128
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1891_180
Household Members: Name Age
James Stewart 46
Janet Stewart 44
James Stewart 15
John Stewart 14
Ann Stewart 11
Daniel Stewart 8
Agnes Stewart 4



GlitterBaby Report 13 Aug 2011 23:00

1911??

PACEY, George Single M 37 1874 Sergeant Royal Garrison Artillery Kent Tunbridge VIEW
>> STEWART, James Married M 35 1876 Corporal Royal Garrison Artillery Renfrewshire Greenock VIEW
FROMANT, William Single M 23 1888 Gunner Royal Garrison Artillery Cambridgeshire Horningsea VIEW
SMITH, George Single M 26 1885 Gunner Royal Garrison Artillery Esses Peldon VIEW
ELLIS, Harry Single M 36 1875 Gunner Royal Garrison Artillery Esses Shoeburyness VIEW
SLADE, George Single M 25 1886 Gunner Royal Garrison Artillery Middlesex Paddington VIEW
TYE, Alfred Single M 25 1886 Gunner Royal Garrison Artillery Suffolk Peasenhall VIEW
BENNET, Harry Single M 30 1881 Gunner Royal Garrison Artillery Hants Hants VIEW
BARNES, John Single M 28 1883 Sapper Royal Engineers Lancashire Stalybridge VIEW
HAWKINS, Arthur Single M 22 1889 Sapper Royal Engineers Middlesex Sheppards Bush VIEW
CROUTHURST, John Single M 43 1868 Gunner Royal Garrison Artillery Sussex Portslade VIEW
CHENN, Jack Single M 29 1882 Gunner Royal Garrison Artillery Middlesex Chelsea VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22053 Reference:
RG14PN22053 RG78PN1310A RD452 SD3 ED1 SN262

Registration District:
Birkenhead Sub District:
Wallasey Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Liscard

Address:
Perck Rock Battery New Brighton Cheshire

This is the US entry which Ancestry suggests might be him - the DOB is wrong, but that doesn't necessarily rule it out. However, somebody has added a note to say his name is James J Stewart, which wouldn't fit. And there's a sister Elizabeth, who's not on the 1891 census

James Stewart

in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: James Stewart
[James J Stewart]
Age: 23
Birth Date: Apr 1875
Birthplace: Scotland
Home in 1900: Bloomfield Ward 3, Essex, New Jersey
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< can't be him
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's name: James Stewart
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Stewart 35 - 55 on image, born April 1845
James Stewart 23
Elizabeth Stewart 28 - daughter, born Scotland April 1822
Isabel Stewart 23 - 3 on image, born New Jersey June 1897

I have accounted for all his siblings.

My mother was born here in NZ and on questioning her she thinks James Stewart stayed in Greenock and that's all she knows.

The only other clue is my Great Uncle mentioning he stayed with cousin David Stewart when visiting Greenock in late 70's. I don't know how he fits in? I thought he may be James's son.

Thank you all once again.

This birth on SP looks like a distinct possibility.
The image of the cert would give you his parents' names.


1905 STEWART DAVID STORER M GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0191

And his marriage:


1932 STEWART DAVID STORER
MCCORMICK LETITIA HILLIAR GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0106


And their deaths:

1985 STEWART DAVID STORER M 80 GREENOCK /RENFREW 640/00 0576


1993 STEWART LETITIA HILLIAR
Other surname: MCCORMICK F 86 GREENOCK /RENFREW 640/00 0892


Impossible to know if they had children, as MMS can't be used in a search, and Stewart is such a common surname.

EDIT:
But probably this birth:

1934 STEWART JAMES STORER M GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0780

He married in Partick in 1955.

Thank you so much.

Storer and David are most definitley family names I will search my tomorrow on SP

Regards Robyn

Just a long shot for James Stewart in 1901 - because he was a hammer-boy in 1891:

James Stewart

in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: James Stewart
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenock, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil Parish: Glasgow Maryhill
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 8 Huntingdon Pl
Occupation: Boilermaker <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ED: 58
Household schedule number: 64
LINE: 2
Roll: CSSCT1901_289
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mccormack 38
Isabella Mccormack 40
Elizabeth Maben 17
John Dinwoodie 55
James Stewart 24 - unmarried