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Scotland 1861 Census

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Cheryl

Cheryl Report 12 Oct 2015 20:20

In 1861 I'm trying to Trace a family Andrew Hardy/Hardie b. 1830 wife Marion b. 1829. Scotland, possible children with them William, Thomas, margaret, Marion. may be old monkland, Lanarkshire. Scotland. I have them on 1871 in durham, england with only 4 children william, Thomas, James and Jane. andrew, marion James and Jane/jennie emigrated to America between 1871-1880. Not sure what happened to rest of family? I have not discovered Andrew Hardie or Marion Brooks(by) on 1851 yet either. Thanks Cheryl

Gee

Gee Report 12 Oct 2015 20:35

1861 Scotland Census


Andrew Hardie

Age:31

Estimated birth year:abt 1830

Relationship:Head

Spouse's name :Marion Hardie

Gender:Male

Where born:Muirkirk, Ayrshire

Registration Number:652/1

Registration district:Old Monkland Western District

Civil Parish:Old Monkland

County:Lanarkshire

Address:Clay Pit

Occupation:Pit Shanker

ED:10

Household schedule number:27

LINE:10

Roll:CSSCT1861_118

Household Members:

Andrew Hardie 31 Pit Shanker
Marion Hardie 32
William Hardie 9
Thomas Hardie 6
Margaret Hardie 4
Marion Hardie 2

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Oct 2015 20:40

Andrew Hardis

in the 1851 England Census

Name: Andrew Hardis
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth Shore
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Monk
ED, institution, or vessel: 2e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 194
Piece: 2398
Folio: 270
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Rains 41 - born Chester le Street
Leptwins Rains 8 - son, born Co Durham [Septimus]
Andrew Hardis 22 - lodger, coal miner
Marion Hardis 22 - stepdaughter, born Scotland


I don't think Joseph's surname is Rains, but can't make out what it is.

EDIT:

It's Lewins - but he's almost certainly not related anyway.

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 12 Oct 2015 20:43

Thank you so much a great help. Is there by any chance a place of birth for Thomas as i have not found a baptism for him? Cheryl

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Oct 2015 20:43

???

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bothwell Street, Lanark, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Robt Hardy Male 45 1796 Scotland
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Janet Hardy Female 30 1811 Scotland
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Janet Hardy Female 14 1827 Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Andrew Hardy Male 12 1829 Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Margt Hardy Female 3 1838 Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Alexr Hay Male 25 1816 Scotland
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George Pepps Male 20 1821 Scotland
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John McCorqudale Male 15 1826 Lanarkshire, Scotland
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George Clark Male 20 1821 Scotland


1851 on fmp.


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Colliery Dwell Houses, Sunderland, Durham, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Lemius Head Widower Male 41 1810 Coal Miner Chester Le Street, Durham, England
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Septimus Lemius Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Durham, England
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Andrew Hardie Lodger Married Male 22 1829 Coal Miner Scotland
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Marion Hardie - Married Female 22 1829 - Scotland (reads wife of lodger, not stepdaughter as ancestry has it)


1861 with places of birth.


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Clay Pit, Old Monkland, Old Monkland Western District, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Andrew Hardie Head Married Male 31 1830 Pit Shanker Muirkirk, Ayrshire, Scotland
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Marion Hardie Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
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William Hardie Son - Male 9 1852 - England
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Thomas Hardie Son - Male 6 1855 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Margaret Hardie Daughter - Female 4 1857 - Bathgate, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Marion Hardie Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Grangemouth, Stirlingshire, Scotland

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 12 Oct 2015 20:48

Thanks for 1841 more than i expected. Can any one spot Marion Brooks/Brooksby? Cheryl

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Oct 2015 20:49

Possibility for Thomas's birth?? (Would make age in 1861 a couple of years out.)

Births Sep 1852 (>99%)
Hardie Thomas Sunderland 10a 339


Or maybe this one?
A few credits on Scotlands People would let you view the image of the original, to see who his parents were.

1855 HARDIE THOMAS
M BLYTHSWOOD GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 0727

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 12 Oct 2015 20:52

Brilliant thanks for info. on Thomas. Glasgow sounds about right. Cheryl

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Oct 2015 20:53

This could also be the 1841? Their marriage certificate may help.


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Quarry Row, Kelloe, Easington, Durham, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Margaret Hardy Female 35 1806 Scotland
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Andrew Hardy Male 11 1830 Scotland
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William Hardy Male 9 1832 Durham, England
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Robert Hardy Male 7 1834 Durham, England
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John Hardy Male 2 1839 Durham, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Oct 2015 20:57

Marriage:

01/12/1848 HARDIE ANDREW MARRION BROOKS/FR1905 (FR1905) M AIRDRIE OR NEW MONKLAND /LANARK 651/00 0070 0470

Viewing the image of the cert would let you see Marion's parents' names, which would assist in finding her in 1841.

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 12 Oct 2015 21:02

Thanks for the Marriage date. Alot for me to work with now. Cheryl

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Oct 2015 21:08

Name: Andrew Hardie
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: Dec 1848
Marriage Place: New Monkland,Lanark,Scotland
Spouse: Marrion Brooks
FHL Film Number: 1066601, 0102960

EDIT oops, I see you got there first AG.

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 12 Oct 2015 21:18

i have come across 2 more children for andrew and Marion. Andrew born 1861 lanark, scotland. john born 1865 Denny, Stirling. Not on 1871 census with them? Possibly died? Can any spot them on 1871 Census. thanks Cheryl

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Oct 2015 21:21

Family in the US.

1880

Name: Andrew Hardy
Age: 52
Birth Year: abt 1828
Birthplace: Scotland
Home in 1880: Zaleski, Vinton, Ohio
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Marion Hardy
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Works In Coal Mines
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and Dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Hardy 52
Marion Hardy 52
James Hardy 13


1900

Name: Andrew Hardy
Age: 71
Birth Date: Jul 1828
Birthplace: Scotland
Home in 1900: Sand Run, Hocking, Ohio
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1874
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Marion Hardy
Marriage Year: 1849
Years Married: 51
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Hardy 71
Marion Hardy 71
Daral Hardy 12 grandson, b Ohio


Is this Thomas living nearby??


1900

Name: Thomas Hardy
Age: 46
Birth Date: Apr 1854
Birthplace: Scotland
Home in 1900: Sand Run, Hocking, Ohio
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1880
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Hardy
Marriage Year: 1897
Years Married: 3
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hardy 46
Mary Ann Hardy 35 Birthplace: England
Robert Hardy 16 Birthplace: Missouri
James Hardy 14 Birthplace: Ohio, stepson
Margaret Hardy 13 Birthplace: Ohio, srepdaughter
Thomas Hardy 12 Birthplace: Missouri
Walter Hardy 8 Birthplace: Ohio, stepson




ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Oct 2015 21:21

This is the only birth of a Marion Brooks in Scotland 1825 -35 - but it doesn't feel like the right one to me. The date's wrong, apart from anything else.

01/01/1832 BROOKS MARION
ALEXANDER BROOKS/MARGARET BOYLE
FR2824 (FR2824) F FALKIRK /STIRLING 479/00 0100 0407


There's also this birth:

30/08/1832 BROOKSBY MARY ANN
ROBERT BROOKSBY/MARGARET DRUMMOND
FR9207 (FR9207) F ST CUTHBERT'S EDINBURGH CITY CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/02 0340 0538

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Oct 2015 21:23

Baptism
Place Kelloe
Church name St Helen
Register type
Register entry number 218
Baptism date 13 Jan 1839
Person forename John
Person sex M
Person abode New Thornley
Father forename Andrew
Father surname HARDY
Father occupation Pitman
Mother forename Margaret
Mother surname BROOKS
Notes 4th son


Baptism
County Durham
Place Kelloe
Church name St Helen
Register type
Register entry number 614
Baptism date 15 Aug 1836
Person forename Margaret
Person sex F
Person abode New Thornley
Father forename Andrew
Father surname HARDY
Father occupation Pitman
Mother forename Margaret
Mother surname BROOKSLEY
Notes 1st daughter


(if John relating to 1841 posted)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 12 Oct 2015 21:28

Thanks Marion Brooks/ Brooksby is daughter of Robert Brooksby and Margaret Drummond I have never found a Baptism for her. Not helping with all the family going back and forwards from brooksby to Brooks!! Cheryl

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Oct 2015 21:34

The "birth" record I posted for Marion (Mary Ann Brooksby) will actually be her christening - it's an old parish record, not a birth cert.

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 12 Oct 2015 21:36

Thanks chris for those Kelloe Baptisms, thats food for thought. Cheryl

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Oct 2015 21:39

Deleted - wrong info