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His parents were John Gray and Jane Tweed
He was baptised on 21/01/1801 in Winterton (Source Lincstothepast.)

But I have been unable to find him since his baptism.

Please can anyone help me find him. I have had a quick look on 1841on family search but I couldn't see him. Tthere seems to be 3 George Grays on the 1851 but I do not have access to Ancestry etc to have a look at the image.

Thanks for your help

Jane

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County LIN
Place Elsham
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 41
Marriage date 28 Jun 1827
Groom forename George
Groom surname GRAY
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom parish Winterton <<<<
Bride forename Susannah
Bride surname CROSS
Bride condition Spinster
Witness1 forename Elizabeth
Witness1 surname CROSS
Witness2 forename Ann
Witness2 surname BARNARD
Notes Bride and witness 2 signed with an X

http://www.freereg.org.uk/search_queries/new

Looks like above couple had at least one child:-

Name Elizabeth Gray
Gender Female
Christening Date 08 Jun 1828
Christening Place Winterton, Lincoln, England
Father's Name George Gray
Mother's Name Susannah

........this is possiblily her in 1851:-

Name: Elizabeth Grey
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Winterton, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Kingston upon Hull Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 2363
Folio: 829
Page Number: 3

Maybe relevant - perhaps another child??

County Lincolnshire
Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 513
Burial date 11 May 1834
Person age 1
Burial person forename George
Burial person surname GRAY
Burial person abode WInterton

..............same person but from familysearch:-

Name George James Gray
Gender Male
Christening Date 14 Feb 1833
Christening Place WINTERTON,LINCOLN,ENGLAND
Death Date 11 May 1834
Father's Name George Gray
Mother's Name Hannah

..............so parents were George and Hannah (could be Susannah)

Just back-tracking to George's baptism. His father was a Weaver, in case its relevant to the search

County LIN
Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 546
Baptism date 25 Jan 1801
Person forename George
Person sex M
Father forename John
Father surname GRAY
Father occupation Weaver
Mother forename Jane

All baps in Witnerton with father's name George

Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 681
Baptism date 8 Jun 1828
Person forename Elizabeth
Person sex F
Person abode Winterton
Father forename George
Father surname GRAY
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Susannah

County LIN
Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 11
Baptism date 13 Mar 1831
Person forename George
Person sex M
Father forename George
Father surname GRAY
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Ann

County LIN
Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 105
Baptism date 14 Feb 1833
Person forename George James
Person sex M
Father forename George
Father surname GRAY
Father occupation Watchmaker
Mother forename Hannah

Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 107
Baptism date 17 Apr 1833
Person forename James
Person sex M
Father forename George
Father surname GRAY
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Ann

County LIN
Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 333
Baptism date 12 Nov 1837
Person forename Mary Ann
Person sex F
Father forename George
Father surname GRAY
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Ann

Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 428
Baptism date 22 Dec 1839
Person forename John
Person sex M
Father forename George
Father surname GRAY
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Ann

County LIN
Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 678
Baptism date 20 Oct 1844
Person forename Thomas
Person sex M
Father forename George
Father surname GRAY
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Ann

I rather think we have 2 couples in the same area!
George Gray, Labourer with wife Ann who might possibly be Susannah.
George Gray, Watchmaker, with wife Hannah

Jane specifically asked for the transcripts from the 1851 census

George Gray
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1800
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Azubah Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Trusthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Trusthorpe
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
George Gray 51 - a farmer of 18 Acres.
Azubah Gray 31
Eliza Gray 12
Isaac Gray 8
William Gray 5
Asher Gray 3

Name: George Gray
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Moulton, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Donington
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Name Age
George Gray 48 - Gardner
Alice Gray 65 - Wife!!
Thomas Newton 28
Ann Goodwin 27
James Newton 17
Children all born Donington

Name: George Gray
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elizabeth Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Burgh, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Burgh le Marsh
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Spilsby
Sub-registration district: Burgh
Elizabeth Gray 73 - Widow, Head & Farmer
George Gray 45 - son, single, employed on farm
Thomas Gray 38 - son, unmarried ditto b Burgh
William Gray 36 - as Thomas
Charles Houlden 13 - Farm servant

Daughter, Elizabeth was born the 8th June 1829 so this could very well be the death of Susannah:-

Name Susanna Grey
Gender Female
Burial Date 27 Jun 1829
Burial Place Winterton, Lincoln, England
Age 24
Birth Date 1805

........................

There is a Susannah Cross bornin 1805:-

Name Susannah Cross
Gender Female
Christening Date 08 Sep 1805
Christening Place ELSHAM,LINCOLN,ENGLAND
Father's Name Edward Cross
Mother's Name Sarah

...............so could be correct one.

In which case it is more than likely that George remarried so other children born would not have mother Susanna.

I think this is the George that married Azubah:-

Name George Grey
Gender Male
Christening Date 10 Sep 1797
Christening Place TRUSTHORPE,LINCOLN,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Grey
Mother's Name Eliza

...................so, for me, this is not your George.

Same family in 1861:-

Name: George Gray
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: 1798
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ayybah Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Trusthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Trusthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Farmer of 17 Acres
Registration district: Louth
Sub-registration district: Withern
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 68
Piece: 2379
Folio: 127
Page Number: 14

Freereg does have a marriage after 1829 which would fit with later baptisms, but the grooms parish is different. Mind you, on a modern map its only 5.7 miles

Place Frodingham
Church name St Lawrence
Register type
Register entry number 86
Marriage date 20 May 1830
Groom forename George
Groom surname GRAY
Groom parish Frodingham
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname HOLLINGSWORTH
Bride parish Frodingham
Witness1 forename William
Witness1 surname TURNER
Witness2 forename John
Witness2 surname PASHLEY
Notes Married by banns

Thank you so much DetEcTive and Catherine for all your help you have both been really great. Sorry it took me a while to get back to you both but I had to go out to help my friend.

I have had a quick look at all this information you have given me and it does look as if you have found George for me.

I agree with Catherine that this is not my George. that is the George that married Azubah

The strange thing is that there seems to be two George's in this family. This one born in 1800 and another one b1811. (George and Ann Hollingsworth) I hadn't noticed this before and I have only just proved he belongs to this family today. So you would have thought the first one had died. but I can't find a death for him. The whole family come from Winterton so he would have been buried there. This is why I asked if someone could find him on the census for me, if there was no sign of him then he must have died.

Then you have found this marriage for George and Susannah which could well be him.

Sorry for the confusion


Thank you so much for your help

Jane

Posting 1851 for George and Ann (Hollingsworth) so other helpers can get a better view:-

Name: George Gray
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Winterton, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Roxby
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Ag.Lab.
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Winterton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 39
Piece: 2117
Folio: 28
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
George Gray 41
Ann Gray 42
Hollingworth Gray 11
Henry Gray 8
Thomas Gray 6
Charles Gray 4
Stephen Gray 1


and looks like same family in 1841?

Name: George Gray
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Winterton
Hundred: Manley (Northern Division)
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: High Street
Occupation: Ag.Lab.
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Winterton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 649
Book: 19
Folio: 32
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
George Gray 30
Ann Gray 30
George Gray 10
James Gray 8
Frank Gray 6
Mary Gray 4
John Gray 2


However, this one may be the following:-

County Lincolnshire
Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 765
Baptism date 27 Oct 1808
Birth date 16 Oct 1808
Person forename George
Person sex M
Person abode Winterton
Father forename Geo
Father surname GRAY
Mother forename Ann

Doesn't help find George but I think this is probably daughter Elizabeth in 1841:-

Name: Elizabeth Gray
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Elsham
Hundred: Yarborough (North Division)
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Brigg
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 632
Book: 11
Folio: 11
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Gray 12


..............................living with:-

Name: Edward Cross
Age: 75
Estimated birth year: abt 1766
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Elsham
Hundred: Yarborough (North Division)
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Gardener
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Brigg
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 632
Book: 11
Folio: 11
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Cross 75
Sarah Cross 60

.....................so living with her grandparents.

Thanks Catherine for helping me. It does look as if the one you found could well be right. There is definitely no deaths for George between 1801 and 1811. There was one but he was a labourer so he can't be my George.

All the best

Jane

Just as a matter of interest, this may very well be George's mother's death:-

County Lincolnshire
Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 171
Burial date 31 May 1850
Person age 74
Burial person forename Jane
Burial person surname GRAY
Burial person abode Barton on Humber

...........would make her dob abt.1776 which would fit.

and his father:-

County Lincolnshire
Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 160
Burial date 13 Feb 1850
Person age 73
Burial person forename John
Burial person surname GRAY
Burial person abode Winterton

makes dob abt.1777

..............in which case they should be on 1841 census.

At last, this looks to be them in 1841:-

Name: John Gracy
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1776
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Winterton
Hundred: Manley (Northern Division)
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: (looks like) Carpenter
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Winterton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 649
Book: 19
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
John Gracy 65
Jane Gracy 60
Robert Gracy 30 - Joiner


..................although baptism gives John's occupation as Weaver? He may of course have changed his occupation over the years, not unheard of.


County Lincolnshire
Place Winterton
Church name All Saints
Register type
Register entry number 767
Baptism date 13 Nov 1808
Birth date 07 Nov 1808
Person forename Robert
Person sex M
Father forename John
Father surname GRAY
Mother forename Jane


Wanted to find his parents as I thought George may have been with them, but not to be.

Another possible brother:-

Name: William Gray
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 Jun 1806
Baptism Date: 15 Jun 1806
Baptism Place: Winterton, Lincolnshire, England
Father: John Gray
Mother: Jane
FHL Film Number: 989795
Reference ID: items 1-22

..................................

In 1851 Robert is living with his brother:-

Name: William Gray
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Winterton, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Hatfield
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Ag.Lab.
Registration district: Thorne
Sub-registration district: Epworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Piece: 2349
Folio: 147
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
William Gray 45
Ann Gray 43
Jane Gray 10
Sarah Gray 8
Harriet Gray 4
Robert Gray 42 - House Carpenter

................but unfortunately can't confirm any sightings of George.

Thank you so much Catherine. I think for now I will investigate the George and Susannah line. Not sure what exactly to do next, but you never know something may turn up to prove its him one way or another. I did see a death for a George and Susannah on Lincstothepast so I will take another look at that, Thanks again

Jane

http://www.lincstothepast.com/

(although you mention above Jane, have you also tried below, can be good for Lincs.)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

Freereg is a fantastic finding tool and IMO better than FS. It transcribes all the info from the image, not just the vital statistics.

I can't get on with Lincstothepast. It's awkward reading the small box. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong?