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HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 5 Oct 2015 19:39

Margee...

I have several instances in my Scottish line of surnames being used as middle names and they are nearly all grandmothers or great grandmothers. Very few mothers although not unheard of.

Jude

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 5 Oct 2015 13:49

Marriages Easington 1911 Jane Amelia Cooke abt 1880 Murton
Marriages Easington 1911 Thomas Leithead Scott abt 1880 Horden

1881 Census Sunderland 1881 Thomas L. Scott abt 1880 New Tunstall

(nothing new!, but above from below, if anything else there!)


http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/

Chris :)

12 March 1938 - Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Sunderland

(on Death notice above date, as Thomas)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Oct 2015 13:16

Interesting, Kay.

May be nothing to do with Adam's family, but Winifred Stewart Bradley (who married the Thomas Turnbull Scott in that marriage record) was the stepdaughter of a John Turnbull.

Winifred S Bradbury
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Winifred S Bradbury
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Stepdaughter
Gender: Female
Mother: Ann Elzth Turnbull
Birth Place: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: Venerable Bede
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 59
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4758
Folio: 36
Page Number: 25
Household schedule number: 162
Household Members:
Name Age
John Turnbull 38
Ann Elzth Turnbull 37
Winifred S Bradbury 14
William Bradbury 12
Elizabeth Turnbull 11
Caroline A Turnbull 9
John Turnbull 7
George Turnbull 4



Minnie Stewart Scott (Winnie mistranscribed)
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Minnie Stewart Scott
[Minnie Stewart Turnbull]
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sunderland, County Durham, England
Civil Parish: Gateshead
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 13 Argyle St Gateshead County Of Durham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Home
Registration district: Gateshead
Registration District Number: 557
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Piece: 30459
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Elizabeth Turnbull 48
Minnie Stewart Scott 24 (Winnie,_married daughter)
Caroline Ann Turnbull 19
John Turnbull 17
George Turnbull 14
Caroline Anne Stewart Scott 5 - grand-daughter

(Ancestry mistranscribes grand-daughter's surname as Turnbull, but image has Scott)


Births Jun 1905 (>99%)
Scott Caroline Ann S Gateshead 10a 1095

Kay????

Kay???? Report 4 Oct 2015 22:00

Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%)
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Bradbury Winifred Steawart Gateshead 10a 1113
Bradbury Winifred Stuert Gateshead 10a 1113
Potter Ellen Gateshead 10a 1113
******Scott Thomas Turnbull Gateshead 10a 1113******
Wood Oswald Gateshead 10a 1113

?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2015 19:08



A tree on Ancestry says this is Thomas Leithead Scott:


Thomas L. Scott
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Thomas L. Scott
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William Scott
Mother: Mary A. Scott
Gender: Male
Where born: New Tunstall, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Tunstall
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 8 Stewart St East
Registration district: Sunderland
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4999
Folio: 105
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
William Scott 41
Mary A. Scott 40
John James Scott 9
George Scott 7
Dorothy A. Scott 5
Thomas L. Scott 1



Thomas Scott
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Thomas Scott
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Scott
Mother's name: Mary Ann Scott
Gender: Male
Where born: Silksworth, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Bishop Wearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthews
Town: Tunstall
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4141
Folio: 55
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
William Scott 50
Mary Ann Scott 50
John James Scott 19
George Scott 17
Dorothy Ann Scott 15
Thomas Scott 12
Mithford Scott 10
Robert Scott 6



Thomas Scott
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Thomas Scott
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: William Scott
Mother: Mary A Scott
Birth Place: New Silksworth, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Tunstall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishopwearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4718
Folio: 78
Page Number: 1
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
William Scott 61
Mary A Scott 60
George Scott 26
Thomas Scott 22
Milford Scott 19
Robert Scott 17
Florence Gray 6

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2015 18:28

Already posted, AustinQ.

Can't find her coming back, though.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Oct 2015 17:23

Deleted- repeat of information

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Oct 2015 15:22

Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Friday 11 March 1938

DEATHS:

SCOTT: Troyville Blue House Lane, Washington on March 10th, Kenneth L. dearley beloved husband of Jane Amelia Scott. Interment at Usworth Cemetery on Monday 3.0 pm, leaving residence at 2.30. Friends kindly invited.

Not sure why he is listed as Kenneth in the death article- this appears to be him from the will calenders:

Name: Thomas Leithead Scott
Probate Date: 12 Apr 1938
Registry: Durham
Death Date: 10 Mar 1938
Death Place: Durham, England
Thomas Leithead Scott of Troyville, Blue House Lane New Washington county Durham died 10th March at Winterton House Sedgefield county Durham 12 April to Jane Amelia Scott widow and Thomas Turnbull Scott accountants clerk
-------------------------------------

And from the death indexes:
Name: Thomas L Scott
Birth Date: abt 1881
Date of Registration: Mar 1938
Age at Death: 57
Registration district: Sedgefield
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a Page: 215
-------------------------------------------

And his birth in the indexes:
First name(s) THOMAS LEITHEAD
Last name SCOTT
Birth year 1879
Birth quarter 4
District SUNDERLAND
County Durham
Volume 10A Page 522

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Oct 2015 14:40

This happened in my family where my grandad's middle name was not his mother's maiden name, which I first assumed, but his grandmother;s maiden name.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2015 14:11

Miss J A Cooke

in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Miss J A Cooke
Gender: Female
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1880
Departure Date: 14 Mar 1907
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Cape Town, South Africa
Ship Name: Afric
Search Ship Database: Search for the Afric in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Master: F B Howarth


Occupation: teacher

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2015 14:04

Turnbull maybe Jane Amelia's mother's ms ???

Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
Cook Joseph Lanchester 10a 370
Turnbull Margaret Lanchester 10a 370

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2015 13:56

????


Jane A. Cook

in the 1881 England Census
Name: Jane A. Cook
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Joseph Cook
Mother: Margaret A. Cook
Gender: Female
Where born: Ebchester, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Longbenton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 18 Lane Row Square Hazelrigg
Registration district: Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5087
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Cook 23
Margaret A. Cook 24
James Cook 2
Jane A. Cook 1



Jane E Cooke
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Jane E Cooke
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Cooke
Mother's name: Margaret Cooke
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanchester, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4175
Folio: 102
Page Number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Cooke 33
Margaret Cooke 35
James Cooke 12
Jane E Cooke 11
Elizabeth Cooke 7




Jane A Cook

in the 1901 England Census
Name: Jane A Cook
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Joseph Cook
Mother: Margaret A Cook
Birth Place: Lanchester, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Heworth Within
Ecclesiastical parish: Gateshead St Edmund
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Heworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4749
Folio: 131
Page Number: 15
Household schedule number: 77
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Cook 42
Margaret A Cook 44
James Cook 22
Jane A Cook 21 - schoolteacher
Elizabeth Cook 17

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Oct 2015 13:56

Wonder where the Turnbull came from? Curious because it's my maiden name.

Adam

Adam Report 4 Oct 2015 13:45

Ah that's brill Margee!

Yes, my father's middle name is Cooke and he told me the name was from his father's side. I reckon that is their marriage in 1911.

Thank you!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2015 13:45

????

Jane Cook
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Jane Cook
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Allendale, Durham, England
Civil Parish: East Murton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 1 Villiers St Murton Colliery Co Durham
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: School Teacher <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration district: Easington
Registration District Number: 552
Sub-registration district: Dawdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Piece: 30042
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Mathew Hill 58
Jane Hill 53
George Hill 33
Thomas Mathew Hill 31
James Hill 20
Joseph Hill 18
Maurice Hill 13
Albert Hill 10
Jane Amelia Cook 31


Jane Amelia Cook

in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Jane Amelia Cook
Registration Year: 1879
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Lanchester
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 327

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Oct 2015 13:38

Possible grandad's parents' marriage?

Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
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Cooke Jane A Easington 10a 879
Scott Thomas L Easington 10a 879

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Oct 2015 13:35

Could this be your grandfather's birth? Mother's maiden name was Cooke.

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Scott Thomas T Cooke Easington 10a 954

Adam

Adam Report 4 Oct 2015 13:27

Thank you for the replies.

My grandfather's full name was Thomas Turnbull Scott (1912-1990) and his wife was Kathleen Mary Scott née Sheild (1918-2014) if this is any help?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2015 13:03

Nor do I see the marriage of a Jane Amelia to a Scott, 1880-1915.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2015 13:02

Welcome to the boards, Adam.

I can't see the birth of a Thomas Scott with mms Turnbull born 3rd quarter 1911- 4th quarter 1913.

Either his year of birth, or your guess at his mother's maiden name, is wrong.
Or Thomas wasn't his first name.