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I am trying to find more about William T G Neale, he was born 1865 to William G Neale and Sarah Budd in Wellington Staffordshire, He was a boatman (canals) William G Neale was a lock Keeper in Birmingham and I have William T G there at the age of 16.
I have a possible marriage for him to a Emma Mary Ann Plenty 1903 in Southwark there was a son born the following year 1904 Henry James Neale but no sign of William

For Reference:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bromford Junction Canal Lock House, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

William G Neal Head Married Male 38 1843 Lock Keeper (Ins) Grimsbury, Northam
Sarah Neal Wife Married Female 36 1845 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England
William T G Neal Son Single Male 16 1865 Boatman Staffordshire, England
Mary A Neal Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Scholar Staffordshire, England
Clara Neal Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Darlaston, Staffordshire
George E Neal Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Essex, England
Thomas Neal Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Staffordshire, England
Elizabeth Neal Daughter Single Female 5 1876 - Staffordshire, England
Ada Annie Neal Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Darlaston, Staffordshire,
Sara Ellen Neal Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - West Bromwich, Staffordshire

EDIT: Place of birth for William junior looks like Staffordshire WELLINGSWORTH. His initials could also be JG

Is this the marriage you are looking at and the following census? What makes you think that this is "your William" as there are no other initials recorded.

If it is your family then William could well be away if he is a boatman on the canals.

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name NEALE
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1903
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ WILLIAM NEALE married one of these people
JULIA LEE, EMMA MARY PLENTY
District SOUTHWARK
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Page 301

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
58 Landseer Road Upper Holloway N, Islington, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Emma Mary Ann Neale Head Married Female Shop Assistant 35 1876 York Stret Bethnal Green
Henry James Neale Son - Male Shop Assistant 6 1905 St Leonards Bronley by Bow

Married 8 years 1 child born

That is the family

Yes that is the marriage I am looking at, the barges travelled to London, so it would be possible I think

Emmas Family has shops when she was a child

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bromford Junction, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

William G Neale Head Married Male 48 1843 Lock Keeper Grimsby, Northamptonshire, England Transcription
Sarah Neale Wife Married Female 46 1845 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Transcription
George E Neale Son Single Male 18 1873 Boatman Middlesex, England Transcription
Thomas Neale Son Single Male 16 1875 Boatman Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Elizabeth Neale Daughter - Female 15 1876 - Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Ada A Neale Daughter - Female 13 1878 General Servant Domestic Darlaston Green, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Sarah E Neale Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Staffordshire, England Transcription
Selina Neale Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Transcription

?? Could this be him 1891

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Coppice, Tipton, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Neal Head Married Male 27 1864 Boatman Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Neal Wife Married Female 23 1868 - Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
Lucy Smith Sister In Law Single Female 6 1885 Scholar Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Phoebe Smith Sister In Law Single Female 17 1874 Domestic Servant Tipton, Staffordshire, England

It is William T G Neale that I cannot find any trace of, I wonder if he just did not register for the census if he was in a barge at the times of the census

Hello Greyghost, it could be I have his birth as 1865 Wellingworth Staffordshire

is this him says record type vessel

William Neal
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name William Neal
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Middlesex
Parish Isleworth
Sub-District Isleworth
Registration District Brentford
Gender Male
Age 45
Birthplace Stafford Wednesbury, Staffordshire
Record Type Vessel

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

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First name(s) William
Last name Neal
Relationship Master
Marital status Married
Sex Male
Occupation Master Canal Boat
Age 45
Birth year 1866
Birth place Stafford Wednesbury
Address The Canal Brentford Lock
Parish Isleworth
County Middlesex
Country England
Vessel name BOXMOOR
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Brentford
Registration district number 128
Enumeration district 1
District number -
Sub district Isleworth
Sub district number 1
Census reference RG14PN6806 RG78PN340 RD128 SD1 ED1 SN80
Piece number 6806
Folio -

That might be a , there is a canal at Isleworth Maylon It is a difficult one this because I cannot be sure

More info on the part census posted by Malyon

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) William
Last name Neal
Relationship Master
Marital status Married
Sex Male
Occupation Master Canal Boat
Age 45
Birth year 1866
Birth place Stafford Wednesbury
Address The Canal Brentford Lock
Parish Isleworth
County Middlesex
Country England
Vessel name BOXMOOR
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Brentford
Registration district number 128
Enumeration district 1
District number -
Sub district Isleworth
Sub district number 1
Census reference RG14PN6806 RG78PN340 RD128 SD1 ED1 SN80
Piece number 6806
Folio -
Page -

Original shows Wife Sarah Neal aged 43 b Oldbury, Stafford and
Samuel ? Oteveus adopted son aged 4 b Southall Middlesex

Married 20 years no children

i cant see a william born with middle name t g and on his marriage just the name william

????

William T Neale
Birth Date: abt 1865
Date of Registration: Sep 1945
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Warwick
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 735

I suspect this may be his birth:

Births Dec 1864
NEALE William James George Dudley 6c 78

On the 1881 his initials could read J G

Birth:
Name: William James George Neale
Registration Year: 1864
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c Page: 78

Sorry Marie- I see you got there first!

I was looking for William junior in 1871 to see if any initials were on it, but can't see him.

This is the sister:

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Willenhall Road, Darlaston, Walsall, Staffordshire, England

James Budd Head - Male 56 1815 - Staffordshire, England
Mary Budd Wife - Female 58 1813 - Montgomeryshire, Wales
Mary Budd Daughter - Female 20 1851 - Staffordshire, England
William J Lunn Grandson - Male 5 1866 - Staffordshire, England
Mary A Neale Granddaughter - Female 5 1866 - Staffordshire, England

If William who married Sarah is the correct one, then this could be the marriage as there are Smith in-laws with them on the 1891 census.
The marriage certificate would give his name, age and occupation and also name his Father and his occupation

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name NEAL
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1889
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ WILLIAM NEAL married one of these people
SARAH SMITH
ELLEN PARKER
District DAVENTRY
District number -
County Northamptonshire
Country England
Volume 3B
Page 250

So who's daughter is Ruth?

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Top Lack Spon Lane West Bromwich, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

William George Neal Head Married Male Lock Maker 68 1843 Grimsby Northamptonshire
Sarah Neal Wife Married Female - 66 1845 Wednesbury Staf
Elizabeth Neal Daughter Single Female - 35 1876 Sedgley Staf
Ruth Neal Granddaughter - Female School 12 1899 Oldbury Worstershire

Erased the 1901 as I wasn't sure it was correct