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James Ford, b1828c Ireland

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JBG

JBG Report 5 Sep 2015 09:21

Hi
Wonder if anyone can help. Ihave this chap married to Catherine Murrin b1840 here in UK but disappears. I believe to the U.S. The family is here in 1861 census but cannot find them in 1871 census.
One of his daughters is Maria Winifred Ford b1856, Birmingham. She married Peter Wolstenholme in 1878 in Leamington Spa.

Any help appreciated
Thank you in advance
Jayne
:-D

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Sep 2015 09:54

Here they are in 1871.....

James Ford in the 1871 England Census
Name:James Ford
Age:42
Estimated birth year:abt 1829
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Catherine Ford
Gender:Male
Where born:Ireland
Civil Parish:Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish:St John
County/Island:Warwickshire
Country:England
Registration district:Birmingham
Sub-registration district:Lady Wood

Household Members:

James Ford 42 (Labourer)
Catherine Ford 35 Roscommon, Ireland
Maria Ford 14
Sarah A Ford 12
Helen Ford 11
Catherine Ford 8
James Ford 4
Eliza Ford 2
Baby (Not Named) Ford 4 Days
John Bates 37
Helen Bates 25

John and Helen Bates are down as brother in law and sister in law........but looking at the image, they are living in the next property.

JBG

JBG Report 5 Sep 2015 09:56

Thank you missed that! <3

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Sep 2015 10:16

You have doubled posted this thread Jayne.......to avoid duplicate research, perhaps you could delete the other one.

Prickles. :-)

JBG

JBG Report 5 Sep 2015 10:24

Thanks. I did try! Will try again! <3

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Sep 2015 10:26

Good girl! ;-)

JBG

JBG Report 5 Sep 2015 10:28

:-D

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2015 11:44

could this be james's death

Deaths Mar 1893 (>99%)
ford James 65 Coventry 6d 343

Deaths Sep 1905 (>99%)
FORD Catherine 70 Birmingham 6d 4

JBG

JBG Report 5 Sep 2015 12:02

Not sure. Especially as there is an 1880 census in the U.S.A. that looks like the family but unfortunately I can't access those records! Thanks for looking.
??

Potty

Potty Report 5 Sep 2015 12:47

There is a tree on Ancestry which has Catherine as Catherine Murrin, b25 Apr 1828 in Rathanigan, Co Kildare, Ireland, parents Thomas Murrin & Mary O'Connell, d 1907 Braddock, Allegheny Pa. James parents Rorry Ford & Honour Kelly. No sources are given.

JBG

JBG Report 5 Sep 2015 13:09

Thanks will take a look. Need to upgrade ancestry to worldwide!

:-)

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2015 13:16

just cant find any of the family imigrating to america

JBG

JBG Report 5 Sep 2015 14:01

I have just looked again and in the U.S. There seems to be censuses for Catherine Ford in 1880, 1900, and 1910. Is anyone able to have a look please?
Thanking you in advance
Jayne
:-)

Potty

Potty Report 5 Sep 2015 14:10

The 1880 census is free on familysearch. Have looked but the family don't seem to be on it.

Potty

Potty Report 5 Sep 2015 14:24

I think all those US censuses are free on familysearch.

Potty

Potty Report 5 Sep 2015 14:28

This from familysearch - is there a connection to the Bates in the 1871:

Name Katherine V. Bates
Event Type Death
Event Date 05 Feb 1906
Event Place Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender Female
Race White
Age 31
Birth Year (Estimated) 1875
Birth Date 19 Jul 1874
Birthplace Phila
Marital Status Single
Father's Name John Bates
Father's Birthplace Ireland
Mother's Name Catherine Ford
Mother's Birthplace Ireland
Occupation Shirt Maker
Burial Place New Cathedral

Potty

Potty Report 5 Sep 2015 14:34

Could this be the family in 1891 - still in Birmingham?

James Ford
Age:60
Estimated birth year:abt 1831
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Catherine Ford
Gender:Male
Where born:Ireland
Civil Parish:Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch
Town:Birmingham

James Ford 60
Catherine Ford 54
Ellen Ford 31
Patrick Ford 20
Richard Ford 15
James Ford 25

Potty

Potty Report 5 Sep 2015 14:44

And in 1881:

Name:Patrick Ford
Age:11
Estimated birth year:abt 1870
Relationship to Head:Son
Father:James Ford
Mother:Cariline Ford
Where born:Birmingham
Civil Parish:Birmingham
285 Icknield Port Rd

James Ford 48
Cariline Ford 46
Ellen Ford 21
James Ford 15
Elizabeth Ford 13
Patrick Ford 11
William Ford 9
Richard Ford 6
Hubert Ford 3

JBG

JBG Report 5 Sep 2015 15:49

Thank you for checking these out!
Have checked the family search indexes and it appears that this is not the family.
Will follow up the UK lead

Thank you all
Regards
Jayne
:-D ;-)

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2015 16:08

this could be hubert as he is not in 1891 census

Deaths Jun 1882 (>99%)
Ford Hubert 3 Birmingham 6d 2