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It worked!

Oh Okay Jude, will give it a go, thank you :-)

Elaine - you should be able to PM Jan...click on her name and it should bring up message. There's no restriction about family ties...I'll prove it by PM'ing you!

Only reason would be if you were not a member and as you are posting on these boards that rules that out!

Jude

Hi Jan,

Sorry, internet went down on Sat and only just come back up. I have tried to PM you but genes reunited don't allow personal emails to be sent unless we have a family connection. Unless you know of another way?

Elaine

That's OK.
There are 2 options. You can join Ancestry, perhaps on a 14-day free trial, or if you feel OK about it PM me your email address and I'll pass it on.
Jan

Hi Jan,

Cornelius definitely rings a bell with me, I remember my mum taking me to see him when I was a little girl, but they didn't call him Cornelius they called him Nailie (don't know how they spelt it though), he was my great uncle. I have vague memories of someone else being there too, I think she was called Tina but not sure. I hope the other tree owner is as delighted as I am, maybe I should join ancestry too, so we can share family connections.

Thanks Jan you're a star.

Wow, that's great research isn't it.
Just to say I did contact the Ancestry tree owner, who has now replied. She says her great-grandfather was their sibling Cornelius, if that rings a bell. However she too couldn't find out anything about the twins.
She does now though!
Jan

Thank you all, this is just so amazing, I feel like I just won the lottery. Thanks xx

It looks like she came home to see family .............


UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Margaret E Armeneau
Birth Date: abt 1922
Age: 27
Port of Departure: St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Arrival Date: 23 Feb 1949
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: St John
Ship Name: Empress of Canada
Search Ship Database: Search for the Empress of Canada in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 160631

Going to 20 Fairclough Road, Huyton, Liverpool
Housewife
Country of Permanent Residence:- Canada

Travelled Tourist Class

??? George's wife



Margaret Armeneau

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: Margaret Armeneau
Gender: Female
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1922
Departure Date: 24 May 1949
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Montreal, Canada
Ship Name: Empress Of France
Search Ship Database: Search for the Empress Of France in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific
Official Number: 160482
Master: B B Grant

from image:-

Last Address in UK:- 20 Fairclough Rd, Huyton, Liverpool
Occupation:- Housewife
Country of future Permanent Residence:- Canada

Travelled First Class

This is the record for that marriage from the lancsbmd site, with George's surname mispelled ..........


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1944
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference

SMITH Margaret E ARMENEAN George E Prescot Register Office or Registrar Attended Prescot R/13A/188

A tree on Ancestry has the following children for Elizabeth and Daniel ......



Lillian May Armeneau
Birth 11 May 1920 in Davidson, Saskatchewan, Canada
Death 20 Apr 2004 in St. Louis, Missouri, USA

George William Armeneau
Birth 18 May 1923 in Davidson, Saskatchewan, Canada
Death 9 Jan 2000 in Sylvan Lake, Alberta, Canada

Lawrence Daniel Armeneau
Birth 10 Jul 1925 in Davidson, Saskatchewan, Canada
Death Sep 28 1994


George William married in England in 1944 ...............

Name: George W Armeneau
Spouse Surname: Smith
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1944
Registration district: Prescot
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 1208

Spouse:- Margaret E Smith



I wonder if Margaret's middle name was Ellen, and IF that grave for George and Ellen is actually for these tow, ie the son and daughter-in-law of Elizabeth and Daniel?

Elaine....Given the age of Ellen when she died (40) ..were there other children you haven't located.....was Joseph who died 1910.(.under a year old) their child also ?

Thank you all very much for your time and effort. I really appreciate your help and assistance.

MarieCeleste,
I am amazed, my mum and her sister Pat went to visit cousins in Alberta, Canada when I was a little girl but because their surname was Armeneau, I never made the connection. You can probably hear the penny drop :-) I was unaware of Elizabeth's existence so had been searching for George Jones only. I have managed to find a copy of Elizabeths headstone on the canadianheadstones.com website. I don't know how to thank you. As there's a George Armeneau headstone too, I'm wondering if they were adopted by the Armeneau family but sooo happy that they survived and lived long lives. Huge thanks to everyone .

The records for the school are held at the Lancashire Archives. It may be worth contacting them.

http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/archives-and-record-office.aspx

:-)

Elizabeth as transcribed from the details found by Eringobragh. One of many children.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Jones
Relationship Inmate
Sex Female
Occupation School
Age 10
Birth year 1901
Birth place Lancs Lpool
Address 13 Nile Street Liverpool
Parish Liverpool
County Lancashire
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Liverpool
Registration district number 453
Enumeration district 20
District number -
Sub district Abercromby
Sub district number 3
Census reference RG14PN22194 RD453 SD3 ED20 SN184
Piece number 22194

This is unproven but worth checking out, there is an Eliza Jones born 1901 on the Home Children database - arrives 1912 on the Corsican. Party from Liverpool Sheltering Home, Mrs. Birt

A tree (unsourced) on Ancestry has Elizabeth Jones born 7 Aug 1900 married to Daniel Armeneau. She died 1975.

This is the Canada 1921 Census:

Name: Elizabeth Armeneau
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1901
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Daniel Armeneau
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1911
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Saskatchewan
District: Last Mountain
District Number: 218
Sub-District Number: 33
City, Town or Village: Wilner
Section Number: 34
Township Number: 27
Range Number: 2
Meridian Number: 3
Municipality: Wilner

Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Armeneau 29
Elizabeth Armeneau 20
Lillian Armeneau 1

Elaine...Elizabeth was still there 1911...I found this (1911 Census)..

184 JONES, Elizabeth Inmate F 10 1901 School Lancs Lpool .

I don't have access to the Census but someone had transcribed the above Census when searching for someone also there.

You could also check the "Home Children" data base if you have no luck finding her..
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/immigration-records.aspx

Hi Elaine.

I copied the baptism records directly from Ancestry - not sure what those letters stand for, but they are obviously references so the records can be located. ID is identity I guess, FHL might be Family History Library perhaps?

You do have to be an Ancestry member to view trees, however the one I referred to is private, so slthough a member I can't view them either!

If you want me to contact the tree owner, quite happy to.

Jan

FHL stands for Family History Library (Latter Day Saints in Salt Lake City).

You can order the films of baptisms from your nearest LDS Family History Centre. You can find your nearest centre here:-

https://familysearch.org/locations/

Kath.x