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David

David Report 17 Aug 2015 21:50

Hi everyone.

Emmanuel Fryer was born 1803 Yarmouth, Hampshire.

I have him on the 1841, 1851 and 1871 census. {Died 1873}

Can anyone please see if they can find him on the 1861 census.

Thankyou.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Aug 2015 21:53

Any wife or children to help with search

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Aug 2015 21:57

So unmarried in 1851 and 1871

1851 in New Forest and 1871 on Isle of Wight. Occupation of baker

David

David Report 17 Aug 2015 21:58

Hello GlitterBaby.

As far as I know, he didn't marry. Although the 1871 census does not state his marital status.

There is no marriage that I can see for him between 1851 and 1871.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Aug 2015 22:00

Who did he marry in 1851 ?

David

David Report 17 Aug 2015 22:02

Oh sorry.

I have just found a possible marriage in 1851.


Marriages Sep 1851 (>99%)

BARROW Frederick Christchurch 8 299
BRINSON Ann Christchurch 8 299
Clench Fanny Christchurch 8 299
FALL James Christchurch 8 299
Fryer Emanuel Christchurch 8 299
Fryer Leah Christchurch 8 299
HICKMAN Philip Christchurch 8 299
Rogers Elizabeth Christchurch 8 299


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Aug 2015 22:06

Looking at the Isle of Wight family history society he might have married Leah Fryer as a couple of possible births with Fryer as mothers maiden name


http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/index.php

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Aug 2015 22:08

No rule that marriage out as they are on 1861 census

Archive reference RG09
Piece number 662
Folio number 164
Page number 11

David

David Report 17 Aug 2015 22:09

I don't think so as I just found this.

Born 1830!


Emanuel Fryer in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name:Emanuel Fryer
Birth Date:1830
Birth Place:Yarmouth, Isle of Wight, England
Death Date:5 Dec 1911
Death Place:Yarmouth, Isle of Wight, England
Cemetery:St James Churchyard
Burial or Cremation Place:
Yarmouth, Isle of Wight Unitary Authority, Isle of Wight, England
Has Bio?:N
Spouse: Leah Fryer
Children: Victor Emmanuel
URL:http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Aug 2015 22:12

a Public Family Tree on ancestry has him marrying Leah Fryer ??????????????

According to this tree, Leah was born 1834, Yarmouth, baptised 4 Ma7 1834, Yarmouth, no parents shown

It also says she died 18 Feb 1921, Yarmouth, buried 22 February


???????????????

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Aug 2015 22:13

so ................. problem solved :-)

as usual, an ancestry tree has made assumptions with no proof :-)

David

David Report 17 Aug 2015 22:17

I have this death for him

He is 68 on the 1871 census.

Emanuel Fryer in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name:Emanuel Fryer
Estimated birth year:abt 1802
Registration Year:1873
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death:71
Registration district:Isle of Wight
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume:2b
Page:319

David

David Report 17 Aug 2015 22:26

I am not sure exactly what you mean by ..........problem solved GlitterBaby?

David

David Report 17 Aug 2015 22:46

I have found Leah Fryer and Emanuel on the 1911 census.

The 1911 census gives Emanuel's age as 83.

My Emmanuel would have been 108 if he was still alive in 1911.

Flip

Flip Report 17 Aug 2015 22:49

Have you looked for the younger Emanuel (the one married to Leah) on the census? It's not that common a name in IoW - maybe there is a connection? Could your Emanuel have been married/widowed before census records - just a thought.

Flip

Flip Report 17 Aug 2015 22:50

I should have said earlier census records!

David

David Report 17 Aug 2015 22:56

Hi Flip

Yes I have traced that Emanuel Fryer in earlier census records.

He is with parents William and Hannah on the 1841 census.

This appears to be his baptism

Emanuel Fryer in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:Emanuel Fryer
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:10 May 1829
Baptism Place:Yarmouth, Hampshire, England
Father: William Fryer
Mother: Hannah
FHL Film Number:1470893
Reference ID:item 33 p 41

David

David Report 17 Aug 2015 23:01

This is the Emmanuel I am looking for in 1861

Emanuel Fryer in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:Emanuel Fryer
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:9 Jan 1803
Baptism Place:Yarmouth, Hampshire, England
Father:James Fryer
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number:1470893
Reference ID:item 30


Flip

Flip Report 17 Aug 2015 23:08

Oh well, scrub that theory, it was just a shot in the dark! Sorry but I can't see your guy in 1861 either.

David

David Report 17 Aug 2015 23:08

As the only marriage showing for an Emanuel Fryer between 1851 and 1871 is the one to Leah Fryer, I don't think my Emmanuel married.