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Martha Trotman b. 1764 married Henry Lewis eventually and I have all the records of her marriage to Henry in August 1822, her burial in 1825, but I cannot find her mother, for years I thought it was Elizabeth Allen b.1747-1808 the wife of Nicholas Trotman b.1734-1780, but it now appears that is wrong as Nicholas's daughter Martha died when she was 12. another child of theirs they also called Martha but she married John Collins. Can anyone help me with this search please.

Keith.

Welcome to the Boards, Keith

Do you know what area of the country Martha lived in?

Is this the Baptism of the birth that you are referring too?

First name(s) Martha
Last name Trotman
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1764
Baptism date 07 Aug 1764
Place Hawkesbury
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Nicholas
Father's last name Trotman
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Perhaps this is the Baptism of the Martha you are looking for if the Martha b 1764 died in 1776

Name: Martha Trotman
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 5 Aug 1779
Parish: Hawkesbury, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: Hawkesbury
Father: Nicholas Trotman
Mother: Betty Trotman
Register Type: Parish Registers

I can only find one Marriage for Nicholas in Gloucester and that is to Elizabeth Allin

Name: Nicholas Trotman
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 10 Oct 1763
Parish: Hawkesbury, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: Hawkesbury
Spouse: Elizabeth Allin
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts

Often people called Elizabeth were known as either Betty or Betsy so could still be the right Mother.

This is the marriage of Martha to John Collins

Name: Martha Trotman
Marriage Date: 18 Apr 1816
Spouse: John Collins
Event Type: Marriage
Parish: Hawkesbury, Gloucestershire
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts
Witnesses Nicholas Trotman and Elizabeth Allin (presumably brother and a cousin)

How did you get to the Marriage of your Martha Trotman to Henry Lewis in 1822?

Many thanks for you interest, I got all this info from a lady who used to work at Gloster records Office and for some years never gave it much thought until I noticed that the first Martha born to Nicholas and Elizabeth died when she was 12. so I have to try and find another Martha from the Berkeley area or near bye. Someone has just sent me a letter I will see what it says and get back to you if I find it useful. Thankyou for your help.

It looks like you are looking at this lady

Name: Martha Lewis
Birth Year: abt 1762
Death Year: abt 1825
Death Age: 63
Burial Date: 19 Nov 1825
Parish: Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: Berkeley
Register Type: Parish Registers

Of course Martha could have been married before to a Mr Trotman so her maiden name would be different from Trotman. If she married Henry Lewis in 1822 it does seem a bit old for a first marriage.

that must be martha's parents that are witness to her marriage 1816

another child

Name Elizabeth Trotman
Gender Female
Christening Date 29 Jan 1767
Christening Place HAWKESBURY,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name Nicholas Trotman
Mother's Name Elizabeth

I have read the letter I was telling you about some while ago, and I read that the Martha you mentioned who was born in 1764 and died 1776 was an error in the entry and should have been a Mary Trotman, how that happened I have no idea, however the Martha you have come up with is the one I have in my tree and have all the records to go with what you have found, but I do think you have mentioned something that I had not thought of, for a start her birth of 1762 I know that might be +- but next you say that she may have been married before and nobody in my circles has thought of that. I can tell you my family has been a nightmare trying to sort them but this is the last link that I must find. Many thanks for your assistance. Keith

If it's correct that Elizabeth Trotman née Allen died in 1808, she wouldn't be witnessing a marriage in 1816.
Also, she would sign as Trotman, not Allen.

Anyway I very much doubt that someone born in 1764 would be marrying for the first time in 1822!
Perhaps there is a missing generation somewhere down the line.

could this be the martha married in 1822


Martha Trotman
England Births and Christenings
Name Martha Trotman
Gender Female
Christening Date 05 Apr 1790
Christening Place ULEY,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name Robert Trotman
Mother's Name Sarah

Beverley yes you are correct, but she did marry in 1922 and died three years later, this part of my tree is so complicated I have enough records to paper my lounge so to speak but I still cannot get to the bottom of it, so many thanks.

Malyon, I do believe you are getting warm, I will now go with my usual thoughts on your finding and say 'how many Martha's were married in 1822 around this area'

The 1790 birth is ok if I give it a +- of two years so I will start to research Robert and Sarah and see what I come up with. Thank you again I feel we have together made some progress tonight. Many thanks Keith

could she have been born pearce and married a trotman



Martha Pierce
England Births and Christenings
Name Martha Pierce
Gender Female
Christening Date 16 May 1762
Christening Place BISLEY,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name Willm Pierce


Simon Trotman
mentioned in the record of Simon Trotman and Martha Pearce
Name Simon Trotman
Spouse's Name Martha Pearce
Event Date 02 Jan 1817
Event Place St. Nicholas, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father's Name Trotman
Spouse's Father's Name Pearce
Marital Status Unknown
Spouse's Marital Status Unknown

So presumably you are looking at ancestors for Henry Lewis and his children?
If this is the case, can you give the names, places and years of their births? This will help us to build a picture of the family in question and perhaps help us to move backwards.
Thanks

Good morning Malyon & Londonbelle, sorry had to go to bed last night, have looked at your last notes, the first one Martha Pearce is a possible the marriage date is five years before the marriage of Martha and Henry Lewis, so Simon Trotman could have left her or died in that time so I need to look into that. Secondly Londonbelle I know Henry Lewis came from Devon or Cornwall. With the documents I have on Martha & Henry I am happy, but I do not know who her parents were I am told they are Nicholas Trotman b.1734 & Elizabeth Allen, who had two Martha's were, and even though I have a baptism record for a Martha b.1764 and her parents shown as Nicholas b.1734 & Elizabeth b.1747 I cannot prove that this the Martha that married Henry Lewis. I am going to Berkeley records office next week on a busman's holiday to see if I can solve this problem.
A thousand thanks to all of you good people who have shown an interest in my family. Regards Keith

Sorry forgot to included Martha and Henry's children. Mary Trotman b 1788-1867 married James Parker, William Trotman b,1792-1831married Mary Knight b.1792-1853, and lastly Anne Trotman b.1798-1877 married John Lovell b.1777

Keith

i cant find any of the above births for martha and henry's children is that the right dates
i thought martha and henry married in 1822