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Jackie

Jackie Report 11 Aug 2015 17:41

hi i have come to a loose end samuel palmer has a cousen living with him john parry 1840 i have parents names does elizeas a sister to betsey say 1791 or samuel palmer1791

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 11 Aug 2015 17:59

Probably best if you post a copy of the census showing Samuel and John together

Jackie

Jackie Report 11 Aug 2015 18:11

sorry dont know how to do that

Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Aug 2015 18:13

Is this the 1841
(not seeing a cousin )


Name:
Samual Palmer

Age:45
Estimated birth year:abt 1796 <<<< adult ages rounded down

Where born:Devon, England

Civil Parish:Thrushelton
Hundred:Lifton
County/Island:Devon


Samual Palmer 45
Grace Palmer 30
Betsy Palmer 5
Eliza Palmer 3
John Palmer 6 Mo

Jackie

Jackie Report 11 Aug 2015 18:25

it is not 1841 its1881 and samuel married elizer millard1829

Jackie

Jackie Report 11 Aug 2015 18:26

eliza was born shepton mallett

Gee

Gee Report 11 Aug 2015 18:31

The census that Mike posted does have a John & Ann Parry living in the same household

Can you be a little more specific with the details DOB/place etc

Jackie

Jackie Report 11 Aug 2015 18:51

mary parry 1806 its not ann i think is the key does she belong to samuel palmer1791 or betsey say1791

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Aug 2015 19:09

where was John Parry born?

where was Samuel Palmer born?

where are they living in the census that you want us to check?

Please do give us all the information that you can ................ if you can't C&P the census, then at least add the information I've requested.

Jackie

Jackie Report 11 Aug 2015 19:22

john parry shopton mallet i think.

somerset

samuel palmer 1826 wringto somerset

Gee

Gee Report 11 Aug 2015 19:41

Jackie

I can't make sense nor find records with the info that you give

Can you explain in more detail please

Thanks

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 11 Aug 2015 19:43

I can find no John Parry born Shepton Mallet or Samuel Palmer born Wrington

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Aug 2015 19:51

it looks as if Jackie is asking about the 1871 Census

samuel is shown as born in Churchill Somerset?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Aug 2015 19:51

County Somerset
Place Congresbury
Church St Andrew
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 28 May 1812
GroomForename Samuel
GroomSurname PALMER
GroomParish Congresbury
BrideForename Betsy
BrideSurname SAY
BrideParish Churchill
WitnessOneForename H
WitnessOneSurname VINCENT
WitnessTwoForename William
WitnessTwoSurname SAY
Notes By License. Bride made her mark


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1335740

(is above relating here somewhere?, if so, have a look round on below link)

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl


edits

County Somerset
Place Shepton Mallet
Church St Peter and Paul Pr
RegisterNumber 347
MarriageDate 03 May 1853
GroomForename Samuel
GroomSurname PALMER
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Farmer
GroomAbode Shepton Mallet
BrideForename Elizabeth Anne
BrideSurname MILLARD
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideAbode Shepton Mallet
GroomFatherForename Samuel
GroomFatherSurname PALMER
GroomFatherOccupation Farmer
BrideFatherForename John
BrideFatherSurname MILLARD
BrideFatherOccupation Farmer
WitnessOneForename John
WitnessOneSurname MILLARD
WitnessTwoForename Hannah
WitnessTwoSurname MILLARD
Notes Banns

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Aug 2015 19:56

1871 Census

Name: Same Palmer
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliz Ann Palmer
Gender: Male
Where born: Churchill, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St Paul
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 41
Piece: 2529
Folio: 9
Page Number: 9

Same Palmer 47 Licensed Victualler
Eliz Ann Palmer 42 b.ca 1829, Shepton Mallet <<< Additional information added
[Eliz Ann Millard]
Mary Millard 67 b.ca 1804, Shepton Mallet, Mother-in-Law
John Parry 31 b.ca 1840, Shepton Mallet, Lodger,
Elizeth Ann Smith 10 b.ca 1861, Padbury, Wales, Niece
Ruth Jones 19 Servant


It says nothing about John Parry being Samuel's cousin

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Aug 2015 20:00

John Parry IS described as a cousin in the 1861 Census

1861 Census

Name: Samuel Palmer
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth A Palmer
Gender: Male
Where born: Churchill, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Bristol St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St Paul
ED, institution, or vessel: 26

Household schedule number: 38
Piece: 1719
Folio: 118
Page Number: 7

Samuel Palmer 37
Elizabeth A Palmer 32 b.ca 1829, Shepton Mallet
John Parry 22 b.ca 1839, Doulting, Somerset, Cousin
Martha Fratt 33 Visitor

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Aug 2015 20:05

and this is Samuel Palmer, born Churchill, with his parents in 1851

1851 Census

Name: Samuel Palmer
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: Samuel Palmer
Mother's name: Betsey Palmer
Gender: Male
Where born: Churchill, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Hornblotton
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Shepton Mallet
Sub-registration district: Stoke Lane
ED, institution, or vessel: 7

Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 1933
Folio: 305
Page Number: 3

Samuel Palmer 57 b.ca 1794, Wyter St Laurer, Somerset, Farmer <<< corrected to [Wick St lawrence, Somerset]
Betsey Palmer 60 b.ca 1791, Churchill
Samuel Palmer 27
Harriet Milton 42 Servant
Albin Cherinock 16 Servant

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Aug 2015 20:06

Is this the family you are researching???????????????

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Aug 2015 20:14

It looks as though Samuel Palmer b.ca 1794 married Betsy Say

and that Samuel born ca 1824 had 2 brothers ........... Frederick Palmer b.ca 1813 and Thomas Palmer b.ca 1818, both in Churchill


According to a Public Family Tree on ancestry ......... and this really does need very careful checking!!


Betsy Say
Birth 1788 in Churchill Somerset
Baptism 8 Jan 1789 — Age: 1 St. John the Baptist Church, Churchill, Somerset

Parents

WILLIAM SAY

ELIZABETH ( BETY ) OZEN


Siblings

Mary Say
1783 –

THOMAS SAY
1784 – 1860

James Say
1786 – 1870

Sarah Say
1790 –


Half sibling

Jane Say
1773 –

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Aug 2015 20:48

(something in the below perhaps?)


Births Sep 1838 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------
Perry John Shepton Mallet 10 418

Baptism
County Somerset
Place Doulting
Church St Aldhelm Pr
RegisterNumber 496
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 09 Sep 1838
Forename John
Sex M
FatherForename Isaac
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname PERRY
Abode Bodden
FatherOccupation Yeoman


County Somerset
Place Cloford
Church St Mary Bt
RegisterNumber 62
MarriageDate 19 Dec 1829
GroomForename John
GroomSurname BROWN
GroomAge
GroomParish Doulting
GroomCondition Bachelor
BrideForename Elizabeth
BrideSurname MILLARD
BrideParish Of This Parish
BrideCondition Spinster
WitnessOneForename John
WitnessOneSurname MILLARD
WitnessTwoForename Ann
WitnessTwoSurname STIRK
Notes Bishops Transcript; Banns


County Somerset
Place Bath
Church St James Pr
RegisterNumber 673
MarriageDate 18 May 1837
GroomForename Isaac
GroomSurname PARRY
GroomParish Of This Parish
GroomCondition Bachelor
BrideForename Elizabeth
BrideSurname BROWN
BrideParish Of This Parish
BrideCondition Widow
WitnessOneForename William
WitnessOneSurname WEST
WitnessTwoForename Betsey Bridget
WitnessTwoSurname STOCK
Notes Register solely for Lyncombe and Widcombe Parish; Licence [bride signed BROWN


Burial
County Somerset
Place Doulting
Church St Aldhelm Pr
RegisterNumber 327
BurialDate 14 Mar 1840
Forename Isaac
Surname PERRY
Age 31
Abode Bodden

Burial
County Somerset
Place Doulting
Church St Aldhelm Pr
RegisterNumber 323
BurialDate 04 Nov 1839
Forename Elizabeth
Surname PARRY
Age 33
Abode Bodden


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl


1841 (Find My Past)
John Millard Male 65 1776 Somerset, England
Sarah Millard Female 65 1776 Somerset, England
George Millard Male 30 1811 Somerset, England
Frances Millard Female 20 1821 Somerset, England
James Millard Male 25 1816 Somerset, England
John Perry Male 2 1839 Somerset, England
Street Kilver Street
Parish or township Shepton Mallet
County Somerset
Registration district Shepton Mallet
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 963
Book number 12
Folio number 30
Page number 13


1851 (Find My Past)
First name(s) John
Last name Perry
Relationship Grandson
Gender Male Age 12
Birth year 1839
Occupation Scholar
Birth town as transcribed Doulton
Birth county Somerset
Town Shepton Mallet
Parish Shepton Mallet (Cowl Street)
County Somerset
Registration district Shepton Mallet
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1933
Folio 562
Page 18
(with John Millard 72, Formerly Farmer, S for his Wife)


Burial
County Somerset
Place Shepton Mallet
Church St Peter and Paul Pr
RegisterNumber 1484
BurialDate 22 May 1852
Forename John
Surname MILLARD
Age 7_
Abode Cowl Street
Notes [75 or 76]


Burial
County Somerset
Place Shepton Mallet
Church St Peter and Paul Pr
RegisterNumber 1793
BurialDate 02 Aug 1855
Forename Sarah
Surname MILLARD
Age 82
Abode Cowl Street

Chris :)

Baptism
County Somerset
Place Shepton Mallet
Church St Peter and Paul Pr
RegisterNumber 1851
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 02 Aug 1828
Forename Elizabeth Ann
Sex F
FatherForename John
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname MILLARD
Abode Charlton
FatherOccupation Farmer