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Thomas Samuel Hodges 1904

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Kayak

Kayak Report 7 Aug 2015 15:52

Some info on the Baldwin Line: (taken from this 1881 census posted by ArgyllGran)
Sussan Baldwin

in the 1881 England Census
Name: Sussan Baldwin
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Daughter (Child)
Father: William Baldwin
Mother: Mary Ann Baldwin
Gender: Female
Where born: Burham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Wouldham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Club Cottage No 2
Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: 1C
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 900
Folio: 76
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
William Baldwin 35 - labourer, in chalk
Mary Ann Baldwin 37
Matilda Baldwin 18 - housemaid, out of situation (BORN MATILDA ROOTS SEE BELOW)
William Baldwin 15 - labourer, in cement
Mary Ann Baldwin 14
Frederick Baldwin 7
Emley Baldwin 5
Sussan Baldwin 1




Baptism link for Susan:

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P405_WOULDHAM_1538_1973/01_Initial_Deposit_1538_1973/01_Incumbent_Service_Register_1538_1969/P405_01_06.html/00000247.jpg

County Kent
Place Wouldham
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 448
DateOfBirth 01 Jun 1879
BaptismDate 18 May 1882
Forename Susan Ann
Sex F
FatherForename William
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname BALDWIN
MotherSurname
Abode Wouldham
FatherOccupation Labourer


also baptised with her were her siblings

Frederick Thomas born 18/9/1873
and
Emily Ellen born 18/12/1875



then on the 14th May 1885

Ann born 7/8/1882
and
Bertha Rose born 9/1/1885


then on 15/5/1887

Sarah born 17/4/1887



William Baldwin married Mary Ann Roots in Halling on 4th February 1865

Link for their marriage cert:

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P165_HALLING_1705_1988/01_Incumbent_Registers_1705_1980/P165_01_07.html/00000020.jpg

Mary Ann had her daughter Matilda Rosetta Roots in 1862

Baptism:

County Kent
Place Halling
Church St John the Baptist
RegisterNumber 34
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 01 Jun 1862
Forename Matilda Rosetta Efford
Sex F
FatherForename
MotherForename Mary Ann
FatherSurname
MotherSurname ROOTS
Abode Halling
FatherOccupation Illegitimate



after her marriage to William they baptised their son William Henry


County Kent
Place Halling
Church St John the Baptist
RegisterNumber 131
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 03 Sep 1865
Forename William Henry
Sex M
FatherForename William Henry
MotherForename Mary Ann Frances
FatherSurname BALDWIN
MotherSurname
Abode Halling
FatherOccupation Labourer


Baptism for Mary Ann Roots

County Kent
Place Halling
Church St John the Baptist
RegisterNumber 487
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 05 Jan 1845
Forename Mary Anne Frances
Sex F
FatherForename William
MotherForename Frances
FatherSurname ROOTS
MotherSurname
Abode Halling
FatherOccupation Labourer
Notes
FileNumber 27944


Possible marriage for William and Frances


County Kent
Place Halling
Church St John the Baptist
RegisterNumber 24
MarriageDate 21 Aug 1836
GroomForename William
GroomSurname ROOTS
GroomAge
GroomParish Halling
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Frances
BrideSurname MILLS
BrideAge
BrideParish Halling
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename William
WitnessOneSurname WOOLMER
WitnessTwoForename Mary
WitnessTwoSurname WOOLMER
Notes Bride, groom and both witnesses make their mark
FileNumber 27946



This looks like Mary Ann in the 1861 census with her father and sister


Piece: RG9/474 Place: Strood -Kent Enumeration District: 8
Civil Parish: Halling Ecclesiastical Parish: Halling
Folio: 120 Page: 20 Schedule: 94
Address: Upper Halling

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ROOTS William Head M M 45 Chalk Pit Labourer Kent - Halling
ROOTS Mary Ann Dau M F 16 Kent - Halling
ROOTS Harriett Dau - F 14 Kent - Halling
ROOTS Eliza Dau - F 10


and William Roots in the 1871 census


William Roots
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name William Roots
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Halling, Halling, Kent, England
Enumeration District 6
Gender Male
Age 34
Marital Status Married
Occupation Lime Lab.
Relationship to Head of Household Father-in-law
Birth Year (Estimated) 1837
Birthplace Halling, Kent


Reuben Wraight Head M 25 Burham, Kent
Harriet Wraight Wife F 24 Halling, Kent
Alice Wraight Daughter F 5 Halling, Kent
Thomas Wraight Son M 4 Halling, Kent
Minnie Wraight Daughter F 2 Halling, Kent
Maud Wraight Daughter F 1 Halling, Kent
William Roots Father-in-law M 34 Halling, Kent



Although at first glance this seems wrong I think that William Roots age has been recorded incorrectly. (He can't have been a father at the age of 10) if you look immediately below the marriage image (I posted above) for William Baldwin and Mary Ann Roots you will see the marriage for her sister Harriett Ann who married Reuben Wraight.

Kayak

Kayak Report 4 Aug 2015 12:15

Link for marriage certificate of George Edward Hodges and Susan Ann Baldwin 24/12/1900 Wouldham

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P405_WOULDHAM_1538_1973/01_Initial_Deposit_1538_1973/01_Incumbent_Service_Register_1538_1969/P405_01_12.html/00000157.jpg

This looks like the baptism for George Hodges(he seems to change his middle name throughout his life George Edwin/George Edward/ George Frederick)


St Peter Rochester Kent
29/11/1876
George Edwin Hodges
son of Emily and Edwin Hodges
Address: High Street St Nicholas
fathers occ: Mariner



AS THIS SHOWS GEORGES FATHER AS EDWIN THIS LOOKS LIKE EDWINS MARRIAGE


County Kent
Place Rochester
Church St. Margaret of Antioch
RegisterNumber 423
MarriageDate 08 Feb 1874
GroomForename Edwin
GroomSurname HODGES
GroomAge 22
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Mariner
GroomAbode St. Margaret's Bank
BrideForename Emily
BrideSurname LUTCHFORD
BrideAge 20
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode St. Margaret's Bank
GroomFatherForename Thomas
GroomFatherSurname HODGES
GroomFatherOccupation Mariner
BrideFatherForename George
BrideFatherSurname LUTCHFORD
BrideFatherOccupation Mariner
WitnessOneForename George
WitnessOneSurname SAWLE
WitnessTwoForename Mercy
WitnessTwoSurname SAWLE
Notes
FileNumber 437

Link to actual marriage cert:

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P305_ROCHESTER_ST_MARGARET_1653_1987/01_Initial_Deposit_of_Parish_Records_1653_1905/01_INCUMBENT_REGISTERS_1653_1987/P305_01_20.html/00000109.jpg

Emily's baptism:

County Kent
Place Rochester
Church St. Margaret of Antioch
RegisterNumber 1285
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 25 May 1856
Forename Emily
Sex F
FatherForename George
MotherForename Sarah
FatherSurname LUCHFORD
MotherSurname
Abode Love Lane, St. Margaret's
FatherOccupation Mariner
Notes
FileNumber 440


Emily in 1871 census


Emily Luchford
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Emily Luchford
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place St Nicholas, Kent, England
Enumeration District 2
Gender Female
Age 15
Marital Status Unmarried
Occupation Housekeeper
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1856
Birthplace Rochester, Kent
Entry Number 15
Household




George Luchford Head M 58 Shorland, Kent occ: Bargeman
Emily Luchford Daughter F 15 Rochester, Kent
Stephen Luchford Son M 13 Rochester, Kent
Alfred Luchford Son M 11 Rochester, Kent
Frederick Luchford Son M 9 Rochester, Kent
George Luchford Son M 3 Rochester, Kent
Elizabeth R Broadby Lodger F 18 Worcestershire



.




Possible marriage for George Luchford and Sarah

Marriages Sep 1843 (>99%)

CHAPMAN Sarah N Aylesford 5 431 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
JARVIS Samuel Hugh N Aylesford 5 431
LINDRIDGE Joseph Nth Aylesford 5 431
LUCHFORD George N Aylesford 5 431 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
McRATH Barnard N Aylesford 5 431
McRITCHIE Matilda Ann Barnes N Aylesford 5 431
SMITH Catherine N Aylesford 5 431
TUNBRIDGE Angeler Elizabeth N Aylesford 5 431


Baptism for Ethel Annie Brown


County Kent
Place Wouldham
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 323
DateOfBirth 10 Jun 1897
BaptismDate 28 Nov 1901
Forename Ethel Annie
Sex F
FatherForename Robert
MotherForename Catherine Ann
FatherSurname BROWN
MotherSurname
Abode Wouldham
FatherOccupation Labourer
Notes

Link to Bapt Register Entry:

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P405_WOULDHAM_1538_1973/01_Initial_Deposit_1538_1973/01_Incumbent_Service_Register_1538_1969/P405_01_07.html/00000297.jpg


Ethel's parents marriage cert: 11th Feb 1893 Snodland:

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P342_SNODLAND_1559_1986/01_INCUMBENT_Service_of_the_Church_Registers_1559_1976/P342_01_15.html/00000096.jpg

Kayak

Kayak Report 4 Aug 2015 10:56

Jayne, it might be worth ordering the marriage certificate for Thomas Samuel Hodges to confirm the name of his father. I think that the Thomas Hodges that has been researched above might be Thomas James Hodges born to George Edwin and Susan Hodges baptisted 10/04/1904 (details already given by Chris Ho :) see link below. )

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P405_WOULDHAM_1538_1973/01_Initial_Deposit_1538_1973/01_Incumbent_Service_Register_1538_1969/P405_01_07.html/00000301.jpg

So it might be that these are 2 different Thomas Hodges.


EDIT JUST FOUND THIS:


From freereg: Marriage for Thomas Samuel Hodges

Search Record Details
County Kent
Place Wouldham
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 41
MarriageDate 26 Dec 1942
GroomForename Thomas Samuel
GroomSurname HODGES
GroomAge 40
GroomParish Wouldham
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Lorry Driver
GroomAbode Temperance Row, Wouldham
BrideForename Ethel Annie
BrideSurname HIGHAM
BrideAge 45
BrideParish Wouldham
BrideCondition Widow
BrideOccupation Housekeeper
BrideAbode Ravensknowle Wouldham
GroomFatherForename George Edward
GroomFatherSurname HODGES
GroomFatherOccupation Retired Bargeman
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Robert
WitnessOneSurname BROWN
WitnessTwoForename Francis
WitnessTwoSurname ATTRYDE
Notes
FileNumber 39681

EDIT:
Although this shows Thomas Samuels father as George Edward Hodges perhaps it might be worth ordering Thomas Samuels birth certificate to be sure that his mother is Susan Baldwin and that you are following the right family.
I have added some info below just in case this is the right family.

Jayne

Jayne Report 2 Aug 2015 15:31

Thankyou rootgatherer, argy/gran & chris ho for helping me start this journey :)
If I'm being a little slow with connecting here, I apologise.. I need to get my head round how this all works lol



Jayne

Jayne

Jayne Report 2 Aug 2015 15:26

http://www.wouldhamvillage.com/images/wph_3.jpg

[email protected]

Getting a tad confused with all these names! & found this.. I wonder if/how Alfred is connected?

Jayne

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Aug 2015 09:40

Baptism
County Kent
Place Wouldham
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 315
DateOfBirth 20 Jul 1901
BaptismDate 18 Aug 1901
Forename George William Frederick
Sex M
FatherForename George Edward
MotherForename Susan Ann
FatherSurname HODGES
MotherSurname
Abode Castle Street Wouldham
FatherOccupation Waterman


Baptism
County Kent
Place Wouldham
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 349
DateOfBirth 06 Jul 1902
BaptismDate 14 Sep 1902
Forename Edwin Victor
Sex M
FatherForename George Frederick
MotherForename Susan Ann
FatherSurname HODGES
MotherSurname
Abode Wouldham
FatherOccupation Bargeman


Baptism
County Kent
Place Wouldham
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 387
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 10 Apr 1904
Forename Thomas James
Sex M
FatherForename George Edwin
MotherForename Susan
FatherSurname HODGES
MotherSurname
Abode Wouldham
FatherOccupation Labourer


(above coming up on below, if any help with things!)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

County Kent
Place Wouldham
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 25
MarriageDate 26 Dec 1925
GroomForename George William Frederick
GroomSurname HODGES
GroomAge 24
GroomParish Wouldham
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Labourer
GroomAbode Temperance Row Wouldham
BrideForename Maud May
BrideSurname FITZPATRICK
BrideAge 22
BrideParish Wouldham
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Temperance Row Wouldham
GroomFatherForename George Edwin
GroomFatherSurname HODGES
GroomFatherOccupation Lighterman
BrideFatherForename James
BrideFatherSurname FITZPATRICK
BrideFatherOccupation Timekeeper
WitnessOneForename J L
WitnessOneSurname CHAPLIN
WitnessTwoForename E
WitnessTwoSurname CLARKE


(also from link posted, below)

Marriages 26 Dec 1942 HODGES Thomas Samuel Kent Wouldham


Burials 24 Feb 1945 HODGES George Edwin Kent Wouldham
Burials 30 Nov 1950 HODGES Susan Ann Kent

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Aug 2015 08:06

No need to apologise Jayne. Sometimes discretion really is the better part of valour.

We haven't looked to see if it was a second marriage for Thomas or if he had any children. The informant on his death registration may be a family member, if that's any help.

Jayne

Jayne Report 2 Aug 2015 07:57

Oh my!! Thank you for so much information :) just trying to digest it all. I havnt done anything like this before & it all looks so confusing! lol Thomas & Ethel were my starting point so I have nothing in return right now, sorry.. Also having huge problems with my iPad atm so searching is a bit hit & miss & even just getting online sometimes very difficult. Hopefully i will have a new iPad in the next week or so & will be able to really get researching :) & return your good deed :)
My reasons for finding Thomas are private I'm afraid. I feel a bit bad not being able to disclose after you have been so helpful.. but the information concerns someone else too & is personal. Hopefully I will be able to reveal the whys in the future though. All depends on others here & ones I find. Sorry to be so 'cloak & dagger'
Thank you again though for getting me started! :)

Jayne

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Aug 2015 23:41

No problem ArgyllGran. Just hope Jayne comes back.

I'm logging out for tonight as I have an early start for a very long busy day tomorrow! This retirement isn't all it's cracked up to be lol .

Looks like Albert was a neighbour of Ethel's family.

1911

Higham Albert
[Albert Higham]
Age in 1911: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Cuxton, Kent
Civil Parish: Wouldham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 11 Castle Street, Wouldham, Rochester
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Bricklayer
Registration district: Malling
Registration District Number: 48
Sub-registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 141
Piece: 3976
Household Members:
Name Age
Higham Albert 54

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Aug 2015 23:34


Thanks, Rootgatherer - was just about to do that!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Aug 2015 23:32

Deaths Dec 1950 (>99%)
Hodges Susan A 72 Maidenhead 6a 719

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Aug 2015 23:28

ArgyllGran, I have sent Jayne a PM to let her know that we have posted on this thread with info about her Thomas :-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Aug 2015 23:26

???

Deaths Dec 1940 (>99%)
Hodges George 65 Malling 2a 2463


Or this one:

Deaths Mar 1945 (>99%)
Hodges George E 69 Maidstone 2a 1594

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Aug 2015 23:21

Ethel Annie Brown
Registration Year: 1897
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Malling
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 673


Ethel Annie Hodges
Birth Date: 10 Jun 1897
Date of Registration: Dec 1993
Age at Death: 96
Registration district: Chatham
Inferred County: Kent
Register Number: B21A
District and Subdistrict: 5611B
Entry Number: 80

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Aug 2015 23:15

This is the Maidstone Ethel in 1911

Ethel Annie Brown
Age in 1911: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1904
Relation to Head: Daughter (Child)
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Maidstone, Kent
Civil Parish: Maidstone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 190 Wheeler St, Maidstone, Kent
Occupation: school
Registration district: Maidstone
Registration District Number: 51
Sub-registration district: Maidstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 100
Piece: 4139
Household Members:
Name Age
George Robert Brown 27
Mary Jane Brown 25
Ethel Annie Brown 7
Arthur Brown 6
Rose Brown 4
George Brown 2
Lizzie Brown

But look at the address for this one! You really need her marriage certificate to be sure you have the correct Ethel!

1911

Ethel Ann Brown
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Daughter (Child)
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Snodland, Kent
Civil Parish: Wouldham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 10 Castle Street, Wouldham, Rochester
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Malling
Registration District Number: 48
Sub-registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 140
Piece: 3976
Household Members:
Name Age
Catherine Ann Brown 53
Robert Brown 19
Ethel Ann Brown 13

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Aug 2015 23:08

If you are sure Ethel was born in Maidstone.........

Ethel Annie Brown
Registration Year: 1903
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Maidstone
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 885

........ But there are a few possibles born in Kent around that time so her age, father's name and occupation from her marriage certificate would help.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Aug 2015 23:06

???

George E Hodges
in the 1891 England Census

Name: George E Hodges
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: Edwin Hodges
Mother's name: Emily Hodges
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Strood
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
Town: Strood
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: Strood
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 653
Folio: 139
Page Number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Hodges 37
Emily Hodges 35
George E Hodges 14
Charles W Hodges 11
Lilian J Hodges 9
Edgar J Hodges 7

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Aug 2015 23:04

Possible births for George:

Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
Hodges George Medway 2a 487


Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
Hodges George Francis Medway 2a 504


Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
HODGES George Edwin Medway 2a 488


Marriage posted above says George Edward - maybe the George Edwin above??

The only George Edward born about the right time in Kent wasn't born in Medway (which included Rochester):
Births Jun 1875 (>99%)
Hodges George Edward Eastry 2a 846

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Aug 2015 23:02

Looks like it was a second marriage for Ethel


Ethel A Brown
Spouse Surname:Albert Higham
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1921
Registration district: Malling
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1835



Albert Higham
Birth Date: abt 1858
Date of Registration: Mar 1939
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Malling
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1405

Albert Higham
Probate Date: 23 Feb 1939
Death Date: 18 Jan 1939
Death Place: Kent, England
Registry: London, England
Probate to Ethel Annie Higham

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Aug 2015 22:55

Sussan Baldwin

in the 1881 England Census
Name: Sussan Baldwin
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Daughter (Child)
Father: William Baldwin
Mother: Mary Ann Baldwin
Gender: Female
Where born: Burham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Wouldham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Club Cottage No 2
Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: 1C
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 900
Folio: 76
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
William Baldwin 35 - labourer, in chalk
Mary Ann Baldwin 37
Matilda Baldwin 18 - housemaid, out of situation
William Baldwin 15 - labourer, in cement
Mary Ann Baldwin 14
Frederick Baldwin 7
Emley Baldwin 5
Sussan Baldwin 1