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Trying to find family link

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Jul 2015 14:47

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I stand by what I can see.

Anita

Anita Report 29 Jul 2015 14:00

Look at Mel's post. The census / and // are clearly laid out. In the 1841 a/ is above Catherine and the // after her. Ergo she is living with Sarah but not of Sarah's immediate family as the rest are. The same applies to mary Tippett and Elizabeth Pascoe on the same page. A single/ is above Mary and the // below her but she is in the same house as Elizabeth. On the left the census enumerator marks each separate dwelling with a 1. There is 1 by Thomas Tippet but the next is Elliot Pascoe.
I disahree with your reading and have had this checked at the National Archives by a reader there.
Thank you
Anita

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2015 16:40

Have just looked at those images for the 1841 census. The enumerator has not only used the "/" and "//" marks to denote the end of households and dwellings but has usefully also bracketed together (the brackets being to the right of the ages) the various households.

In this particular instance those bracketed together are:

Thos Tippett
Sally
William
George
Catherine
Martin
John
Sally
Harriet

People who appear to be living alone are indicated by a "+" (or it may be a "x") to the right of their ages. This pattern continues throughout the various pages.

Again, in this particular instance, Catherine Basset has a "+" to the right of her age, denoting she is alone in a household.

Anita, as you "have been doing this a very long time" (as have all of us) then you will be aware that (as Mike previously said) ages in the 1841 census were rounded down to the nearest 5 for anyone over 15, therefore Catherine Bassett was certainly old enough to be living alone (and even if she was only 15 you can't say she wouldn't live alone).

Anita

Anita Report 28 Jul 2015 15:14

Thanks Mel.
I have a photo of the original marriage in church register.
My original question was can anyone find a link between Sarah and the Catherine Basset in the 1841 census. It may help find sarah's origins.

Very frustrating when basic errors come back.

Many thanks
Anita

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 27 Jul 2015 21:57

Marriage.

Name: Thomas Tippet**************
Spouse's Name: Sally Bassett**************
Event Date: 10 Feb 1816
Event Place: Kea, Cornwall, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04048-3 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1595810 , Reference ID: item 9 p 19

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 27 Jul 2015 21:54

Harriot is on the transcription of the others on the page. one/ denotes the family and Caatherine is not included. // denotes the next house and family.

Thos Tippett abt 1796 Cornwall, England Kea, Cornwall
Sabby Tippett abt 1796 Cornwall, England Kea, Cornwall
Wm Tippett abt 1826 Cornwall, England Kea, Cornwall
George Tippett abt 1825 Cornwall, England Kea, Cornwall
Catherine Tippett abt 1828 Cornwall, England Kea, Cornwall
Martin Tippett abt 1830 Cornwall, England Kea, Cornwall
John Tippett abt 1832 Cornwall, England Kea, Cornwall
Sally Tippett abt 1835 Cornwall, England Kea, Cornwall
/Harriot Tippett abt 1836 Cornwall, England Kea, Cornwall
//Catharine Basseh abt 1826 Cornwall, England Kea, Cornwall
Elizath Pascoe abt 1766 Cornwall, England Kea, Cornwall
//Mary Tippett abt 1806 Cornwall, England Kea, Cornwall

Anita

Anita Report 27 Jul 2015 19:55

Thank to all. I have been doing this a very long time and wanted new eyes and minds but got no answer to the original question.

Gee

Gee Report 27 Jul 2015 19:51

Cripes Anita

We are trying to help but you seem to know better

Good luck

Anita

Anita Report 27 Jul 2015 19:13

No she isn't .. see post by Mel
What about HARRIOT?

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Jul 2015 19:12

Catherine Tippet and Catherine Bassett are two different people

both listed in 1841

Thos Tippett 45
Sabby Tippett 45
Wm Tippett 15
George Tippett 16
Catherine Tippett 13 <<<<<<<<<
Martin Tippett 11
John Tippett 9
Sally Tippett 6


meanwhile .... Catherine Bassett 15 is next household

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 27 Jul 2015 19:10

The cut off lines for eaxh household are just before the names across the line at the begining as //

It is also after Mary Tippet who is residing with Elizabeth Pascoe 75.

Anita

Anita Report 27 Jul 2015 19:09

Catherine Tippet born 1827 is on the same entry as Catherine Basset born 1828 baptised 1829 parents William Basset and Catherine Harris.
Catherine Tippet has an illegitimate child Elizabeth Ninnis Tippet 1849 and dies unmarried in 1854.

Gee

Gee Report 27 Jul 2015 19:07

Anita

There are two pages

Gee

Gee Report 27 Jul 2015 19:06

Thanks Mel

Here is a birth that matches



Name:Catherine Tippett

Gender:Female

Baptism Date:23 Apr 1827

Baptism Place:Kenwyn, Cornwall, England

Father: Thomas Tippett

Mother: Sally

FHL Film Number:1595811

Reference ID:255


It's her daughter

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Jul 2015 19:04

Catherine may well have been aged 19 in 1841 due to ages being rounded down and quite able to live alone.

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Anita

Anita Report 27 Jul 2015 19:03

Thank you Mel.!!!
I have been thinking niece with a 30 year age gap that would be stretching it as siblings. This is why I am trying to find possible parents marriage for Catherine's. Sarah also call a son William- no William's in Tippet family until this point, may indicate her father's name.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 27 Jul 2015 19:01

Gins it is'nt a y it is an old fashioned s written as f.

She is included in the house of Thos Tippet and Sally but they hav'nt transcribed Harriet aged 5.

Anita

Anita Report 27 Jul 2015 18:59

Catherine would not be living alone at 15 and there is no 1 in the left hand column to show another dwelling place. The name is Basset. Several contact also read it as Basset. Given ss was written as fs without the cross bar in the f in this period it is about the practices used in 1841.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 27 Jul 2015 18:57

The line drawn down denotes the children to Thos and Sally the Catherine Basset is not one of their children. Could she be Sally's sister????? Or her brothers child?

Anita

Anita Report 27 Jul 2015 18:54

Look at any other mark dividing households on the same double page and it is clearly BELOW Catherine Basset and above Elliot Pascoe. The word Tomperrow is again repeated level with Pascoe.
The line is used to designate one family, as Catherine is below it she is not a child of Sabby and Thomas but in the same household.