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John James b. 1864 in Cardiganshire, Wales died on 19/11/1919 in British Columbia (West Kootenay : Town indecipherable). He was a widower and a labourer at the Trail Smelters and had lived in the district for ~20 years.

I am unable to find him in the Canadian Census of 1911, and I would like to find out any details regarding his wife and any family.

Any help would be appreciated.

thanks

Sheila

Would this be him?



Name:John A James

Gender:Male

Marital Status:Single

Age:49

Birth Date:Jan 1862

Birth Place:Wales

Relation to Head of House:Head

Immigration Year:1906

Race or Tribe:Welsh

Province:Saskatchewan

District:Qu Appelle
District Number:213
Sub-District:27
Sub-District Number:27

Place of Habitation:North Front St

Household Members:


John A James 49
Thomas Brooks 30

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1290010

(other looks to relate)

Chris :)

edits (now 'nudged' up)

The other thread is marked as answered although it's not - another casualty of that stupid "Mark as answered" button.
So I'll reply on this thread.

The John James in 1881 (posted on the other thread by PricklyHolly, and copied here) is not with the rest of his family in 1891, which would perhaps fit with what Sheila Mary says - if he emigrated at some time after 1881.


John James
in the 1881 Wales Census
Name: John James
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: William James
Mother's name: Jane James
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanbadarn Fawr, Cardiganshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Trefeirig
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales
Street address: Garth Penrhyncoch
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Engine Driver In A Lead Mine
Registration district: Aberystwith
Sub registration district: Rheidol
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5449
Folio: 90
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William James 42
Jane James 43
John James 17
Laura James 14
James Arthur James 11
Evan Robert James 9



Unfortunately, there are several travel records for people of that name going to Canada, and not enough detail to identify him definitely.

All - to avoid confusion, a much earlier request I made for information contained errors and I went back to the drawing board. The latest request is based on finding the correct information relating to John James' death in British Columbia, with the exact date of death on a monument inscription in Cardiganshire.

Hope this helps to ease the confusion.

thanks

Sheila

ArgyllGran - you definitely have the correct John James in Wales
Gins - I think the emigration year would be a little late, and also in any record I have I didn't see the middle letter A. So perhaps not, but thank you anyway.

I don't see a death for John James in 1919 on the British Columbia Archives site.

Hi Margee. I found it under :
GR2951 British Columbia Division of Vital Statistics
Vol. 254 Death Registrations074844 to 075084 from familysearch.org website.
thanks

Sheila

This looks like the death but it's of an infant.


John James

in the British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872-1990
Record Image Index-only record

Name: John James
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1919
Death Age: 0
Death Date: 19 Nov 1919
Death Location: Waneta
Registration Number: 1919-09-254058
BCA Number: B13116
GSU Number: 1927144

I see no such death either on BC records, except for the one above :-S

Dea x

Hi Margee

Thanks for coming back. I think we may be looking at 2 different sources. The one I have found states that the male was born in Wales, was widowed, had been a labourer and had been in the district for about ~20 years. An image was available also. However you have now solved one question I had which was the spelling of Waneta. Thanks

Sheila

Was John ever married and do you have any other information on him please?

Dea / Margee. This is bizarre. The record I found was sourced by familysearch.org with the following details:
British Columbia Death Registration 1872 - 1986.
GS 1927144
Digital Folder Number 00437644
Image Number 01525
Reg No 75058
I wonder if there are differences in the 2 sources?

Gins _ I'm afraid the only information I have was he was a widower when he died. I have no further information if he married in Wales or in Canada. thanks
Sheila

Just for clarity, this is the death registration:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DW1Q-L7F

Don't know if I'm missing it, but can't see an age on that registration.

Hi Sheila, yes you're right, that's what it says on the Familysearch site and it is an original record. The one that gives the age as zero was from Ancestry (the date of death was the same) but on the British Columbia Vital Statistics site there's nothing, nada!

http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm

thanks all. The reason I was able to join the death certificate to my ancestor was because of the specific date on his fathers gravestone in Wales, plus the fact that he was originally Welsh. He was 56 years old when he died. But you are right, no age exists on the original record.

Given that the man dying 1919 seems to have died alone (hence the died 18th or 19th on the death registration) perhaps not much was known about him and the 20 years in the area may have been assumed or based on second hand info.

MarieCeleste, you are correct and add to that nobody knew his father or his mothers name nor his father's nationality - it certainly points to a lonely life. However somebody did contact his Welsh relatives to inform them, which is why I am so interested in finding out what his status was in the 1911 census.....or even the 1901 census.... thanks

I can't find him on either the 1901 or 1911 census.