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Frustrating indeed ArgyllGran.

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So frustrating when that happens, PH!

My Elizabeth Butler's the same - in service in 1881 - then disappeared!

Thank you Kucinta and Joonie.

I think whatever happed to her, will forever remain a mystery.

:-(

here's another long shot for the pot :-)

....... but stick a fork in her she's done, see bottom


1911

Name: Maria Dorey
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
>>> Birth Place: Lymington, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Castel or Câtel
County/Island: Guernsey
Country: Channel Islands
Street address: Le Lande, Cobo, Guernsey
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 20
Registration district: Guernsey
John Dorey 38 carpenter
Maria Dorey 46
Welfred Dorey 19
Lilian Dorey 17

she's a trifle young ... but if you were that much older than your hubby ...


1901

Name: Maria Dorey
Age in 1901: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John D Dorey
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampsture, England
Civil Parish: Catel
Town: Queritez
County/Island: Guernsey
Country: Channel Islands
Registration district: Guernsey
John D Dorey 28 carpenter
Maria Dorey 26
Wilfred J Dorey 8
Lilian D Dorey 7


the ages in both cases are exacty as stated on the images


well no ^&%$ she is the other Maria I saw in the censuses as a child born in Lymington

Marriages Sep 1891
Dorey John Denis Lymington 2b 1095
Richardson Maria Lymington 2b 1095

Births Dec 1864
RICHARDSON Maria Lymington 2b 523

there are two and it had to be the other one


well that settles what became of the other Maria and rules her out anyway!

at least if you find a Maria born in Lymington in the early 1860s you'll know it isn't Ms Richardson :-)

Possibly the Maria from Dea's long shot? To eliminate?


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

107, Evelyn Street, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich, London, England

Frederick C Porter Head Married Male 41 1860 Manager (Public House) Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Maria Porter Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England <<<<<
Ethel Porter Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Kennington, Surrey, England
Charles Porter Son - Male 11 1890 - Newington, London, England
Stanley Porter Son - Male 10 1891 - Peckham, Surrey, England
Alfred Shurman Servant Single Male 17 1884 Barman Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Edwin Baker Servant Single Male 18 1883 Barman Ramsgate, Kent, England
Phillip Norgate Servant Single Male 24 1877 Barman Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Ffrederick has a new, younger wife in 1911:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census

208 Trafalgar Road E Greenwich, Greenwich, London, England

Frederick Charles Porter Head Married Male Licensed Victualler 52 1859 Bermondsey
Mary Maria Porter Wife Married Female Assisting In The Business 34 1877 Glemsford Suffolk
Alice Maud Tibbs Daughter Single Female Assisting In House 17 1894 Tottenham
Edith May Tibbs Daughter Single Female Clerk 16 1895 Charlton Kent
Evelyn Margaret Fraser Niece Single Female - 4 1907 Purley Surrey
Alfred Ralf Assistant Married Male Assisting In The Business 23 1888 Maidston Kent
Alexander Clark Assistant Single Male Assisting In The Business 22 1889 Plumstead Kent
James Allen Price Assistant Single Male Assisting In The Business 19 1892 Woolwich Kent

Frederick Charles and Mary Maria are married 4 yrs with no children in census 1911.

??

Marriages Dec 1907
PORTER Frederick Charles Thanet 2a 2151
TIB_S Mary Maria Thanet 2a 2151

Hi Eringobragh and thank you.

I'm not seeing a Maria Larkin or Prior in any census records.

No appropriate deaths registered between 1882 and 1891 either.

Edit: Just found the parish record for Henry William Prior to Maria Elizabeth Porter.

Father.......Eason Porter. :-(

PricklyHolly Have you looked at this one....?

Reg Sept 1882 Chelsea.....


Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)

Hill Jane Chelsea 1a 650
LARKIN John Chelsea 1a 650
Porter Maria Elizabeth Chelsea 1a 650 ******
Prior Henry William Chelsea 1a 650

Now then Prickles - you know that is not allowed !!! ;-) :-D :-D

Dea x

I will check that out thank you.

I am getting to the point where I might just make something up Dea! :-D

A long shot, I know, but......................

?????
Name: Maria Porter
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Registration Year: 1904
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 42
Registration district: Greenwich
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 701

Dea x

Thanks Flip.

Think you can rule out Bound, I think he's a storekeeper with wife Eliza in 1891.

I appreciate your input Yvonne...........however.......

Without purchasing copies of the Porter/Cook....Porter/Bound marriages, there is no way of knowing how old Mary Elizabeth Porter was when she married, who her Father was, and whether or not she had been married before.

Thank you for confirming that ArgyllGran.

Unfortunately, that's not her. That Maria Porter is listed as "wife", and is from Coventry.

Maria Porter
New York, Passenger Lists
Name: Maria Porter
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1890
Event Place: New York City, New York, United States
Gender: Female
Birthplace: England
Ship Name: City Of Berlin

Interesting thank you Flip.

However, I am not seeing an appropriate 1891 census that fits the details for a Maria Bound or Cook.

No deaths showing either for a Maria Bound or Cook between 1888--1891.

there are no births in hampshire for mary elizabeth porter that could be the marriage to charles cook in 1888 so flip could be right about them misheard her name

Have you checked out the 1888 marriage in Southampton for Mary Elizabeth to John Bound or Charles Cook? They may have misheard her name...

Thank you very much for looking Maddie.

She is one of those I put on the back burner and every so often I fire her up again.

And get frustrated all over again!!!

I thought I would give it try on here to see if there was something I was missing.

Oh well.............so frustrating! :-|