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Thomas Oldham Evans 1872-1935

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Mark

Mark Report 10 Jul 2015 12:54

My relative Thomas Oldham Evans 1872-1935 married Margaret Martin in St George, Hyde, on 07/09/1909. According to the 1911 census one child was born and died of this couple. Having used bmd's I am at a loss as to the name of this child. Many thanks

safc

safc Report 10 Jul 2015 13:08

Name: Mary Evans
Event Type: Other
Event Date:
Event Place:
Gender: Female
Age (Formatted):
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1911
Marital Status:
Father's Name: Thomas Oldham Evans
Mother's Name: Margaret Evans
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
GS Film number: 2106996
Digital Folder Number: 004019060
Image Number: 00079



Citing this Record:
"England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F7JY-NX2 : accessed 10 July 2015), Mary Evans, , Other; citing Page: 100 Record number: 799, , Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2,106,996.

safc

safc Report 10 Jul 2015 13:10

????
Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1911
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
EVANS Mary 0 Newton & Godley Tameside NEW/28/80

Mark

Mark Report 10 Jul 2015 13:11

Thank you safc much appreciated

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Jul 2015 13:13

Her death? Ashton district covers Hyde.

Deaths Mar 1911 (>99%)
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Evans Mary 0 Ashton 8d 339

Mark

Mark Report 10 Jul 2015 13:17

I have her sister Harriet H Evans 1876-1960 marrying Alfred Bentley in 1913 Stockport but no children to this marriage it seems..

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Jul 2015 13:56

Whose sister? Margaret's maiden name was Martin not Evans.

Mark

Mark Report 10 Jul 2015 14:03

Sorry I got confused Thomas Oldham Evans had a sister Harriet 1876 who married Alfred Bentley but I have no dates for Alfred and I cannot find any children for this couple.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Jul 2015 14:06

Oh, I see you mean HIS sister:

Harriet H Evans

in the 1901 England Census
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Name: Harriet H Evans
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Daughter (Child)
Gender: Female
Mother: Maria Frith Evans
Birth Place: Hyde, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Hyde
Ecclesiastical parish: Hyde St Thomas
Town: Hyde
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Hyde
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3283
Folio: 46
Page Number: 11
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members:
Name Age
Maria Frith Evans 67
Thomas O Evans 29
Harriet H Evans 27
Maude E Evans 19

safc

safc Report 10 Jul 2015 14:16

Name: Alfred Bentley
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Jun 1913
Event Place: , Bredbury, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age (Formatted): 58y
Birth Date:
Marital Status:
Father's Name: John Bentley
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name: Harriet Helen Evans
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Father's Name: Edward Evans
Spouse's Mother's Name:
GS Film number: 2186910
Digital Folder Number: 004019283
Image Number: 00123



Citing this Record:
"England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3GF-FLS : accessed 10 July 2015), Alfred Bentley and Harriet Helen Evans, 14 Jun 1913, Marriage; citing item 1 p 117, , Bredbury, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2,186,910.

Mark

Mark Report 11 Jul 2015 12:53

This is interesting as far as I have known Harriet Helen Evans, her brother Thomas Oldham Evans and Maud Elle Evans my great grandmother were illegitimate, but this record shows there father as Edward Evans, it could of course just be a name to save embarrassment of being recognised as illegitimate.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Jul 2015 14:24

Looks like father is Edmund here:

Harriet H Evans

in the 1891 England Census
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Name: Harriet H Evans
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: Edmund Evans
Mother's name: Maria F Evans
Gender: Female
Where born: Hyde, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Hyde
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Hyde
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stockport
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2791
Folio: 96
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund Evans 58, grocer
Maria F Evans 59
Betsy A Evans 25, school mistress
Thomas O Evans 19, hatter
Harriet H Evans 17, pupil teacher
Maud E Evans 10, pupil teacher

safc

safc Report 11 Jul 2015 14:28


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
29, Cheapside, Hyde, Stockport, Cheshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Maria Frith Evans Head Married Female 67 1834 - Hyde, Cheshire, England
Transcription
Thomas O Evans Son Single Male 29 1872 Property Builder's Manager Hyde, Cheshire, England
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Harriet H Evans Daughter Single Female 27 1874 School Teacher (Church Of England) Hyde, Cheshire, England
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Maude E Evans Grand Daughter Single Female 19 1882 - Hyde, Cheshire, England

safc

safc Report 11 Jul 2015 14:32

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1855
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
EVANS Edward OLDHAM Maria Frith Mottram in Longdendale, St. Michael Tameside CE31/5/299

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Jul 2015 14:33

Parents' marriage?

Marriages Sep 1855 (>99%)
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Evans Edmund Ashton 8d 707
Oldham Maria Frith Ashton 8d 707

safc

safc Report 11 Jul 2015 14:34

Name: Edmund Evans
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Aug 1855
Event Place: , Mottram-in-Longdendale, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age (Formatted): 23y
Birth Date:
Marital Status:
Father's Name: John Evans
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name: Maria Frith Oldham
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Father's Name: Alexander Oldham
Spouse's Mother's Name:
GS Film number: 2103774
Digital Folder Number: 004018947
Image Number: 00853



Citing this Record:
"England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3P4-B3H : accessed 11 July 2015), Edmund Evans and Maria Frith Oldham, 14 Aug 1855, Marriage; citing item 4 p 150, , Mottram-in-Longdendale, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2,103,774.

safc

safc Report 11 Jul 2015 14:37


England & Wales Non-conformist births and baptisms Transcription

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First name(s) Maria Frith
Last name Oldham
Birth year 1832
Birth date 30 Dec 1832
Baptism year 1833
Baptism date 05 May 1833
Place Stockport
Denomination Presbyterian
Father's first name(s) Alexander
Mother's first name(s) Charlotte
County Cheshire
Country England
Archive reference TNA/RG/4/548
Description CHESHIRE: Stockport, Hyde Chapel (Presbyterian): Births & Baptisms
Record set England & Wales Non-conformist births and baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

safc

safc Report 11 Jul 2015 14:40


England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
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First name(s) Alexander
Last name Oldham
Name note -
Marriage year 1817
Marriage date 16 Jul 1817
Marriage date note married with banns
Marriage place Parish Of Glossop, Derby County, England
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Spouse's first name(s) Charlotte
Spouse's last name Frith
Spouse's father's first name(s) -
Spouse's father's last name -
Spouse's mother's first name(s) -
Spouse's mother's last name -
Residence Glossop, Derbyshire, England
Place Glossop
County Derbyshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Jul 2015 14:41

I wonder where the info came from that the children were illegitimate?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Jul 2015 14:44

Harriet H. in 1911. She's a school teacher. Charlotte Alice is her widowed sister.

Harriet Helen Evans

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Harriet Helen Evans
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hyde, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Bredbury
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: 11 Station Road Bredenbury Cheshire
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: At Home
Registration district: Stockport
Registration District Number: 443
Sub-registration district: Bredbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 21343
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Helen Evans 37
Charlotte Alice Fischbacher 52