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David

David Report 7 Jul 2015 18:57

I am trying to find out if May Beale who was born in Rolvenden in 1885 emigrated to the USA. She was still in the UK according to the 1911 census. Any help would be appreciated
David Manuel

malyon

malyon Report 7 Jul 2015 19:02

Mary Beale
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name: Mary Beale
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: Little Chart, Kent, England
County: Kent
Civil Parish: Little Chart
Ecclesiastical Parish: Little Chart St Mary
Sub-District: Calehill
Registration District: West Ashford
Gender: Female
Age: 16
Relationship to Head of Household: Servant
Birthplace: Rolvenden, Kent
Schedule Type: Household

malyon

malyon Report 7 Jul 2015 19:04


Mary Beal
Canada Passenger Lists
Name: Mary Beal
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: Oct 1907
Event Place: Quebec City, Quebec, Canada
Age: 22
Birth Year (Estimated): 1885
Birthplace: England
Ship Name: Empress of Britain

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jul 2015 19:43

That Mary is travelling with parents James and Annie and 8 siblings. They all come from Yorkshire.

Who are your May's parents please?


EDIT Just seen that they are George W and Mary J.

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jul 2015 19:47

1911 for her.


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Brick House Kent, Tenterden, Kent, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
John Skinner Head Married Male Farm Bailiff 27 1884 Pluckley Kent
Transcription
Daisy Mary Skinner Wife Married Female - 25 1886 Rolvenden Kent
Transcription
May Beale Sister Single Female Parlourmaid Domestic 26 1885 Rolvenden Kent
Transcription
Gwendoline Skinner Daughter - Female - 1 1910 High Halden Kent

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jul 2015 19:51

There is this one. Is Smarden anywhere near Rolvenden? They both seem to be in the Ashford area of Kent.


New York City Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Transcription

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First name(s) May
Last name Beale
Sex Female
Age 28y
Birth year 1884
Nationality English
Birth place -
Residence Smarden, England
Departure port Southampton
Arrival year 1912
Arrival place New York
Ship name Oceanic
Country United States
Record set New York City Passenger Lists, 1820-1957


EDIT No another passenger record has her mother as Mrs G Beale, Hamden Cottage, Smarden.

EDIT AGAIN I suppose her mother could be Mrs GEORGE Beale. That would make this the correct person.



This is the manifest.

Name: May Beale
Arrival Date: 10 Oct 1912
Birth Date: abt 1884
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: monlvenden kent
Age: 28 Years 4 Months
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Oceanic
Search Ship Database: Search for the Oceanic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database


alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jul 2015 20:01

Her parents in 1911.


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
>>Hamden Green Smarden Kent, Smarden, Kent, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
George W Beale Head Married Male Shepherd 64 1847 Biddenham Kent
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Mary Jane Beale Wife Married Female - 62 1849 Rockley Sussex
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Francis Suters Daughter Married Female - 27 1884 Rolvenden Kent
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George Suters Son In Law Married Male Motor Cleaner 28 1883 Brecon S Wales

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jul 2015 20:10

From the Ellis Island website, it states she was going to visit her brother in law Mr J Skinner, c/o Mr DS Gray, Greene, NY.

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jul 2015 20:20

??? 1920

Name: John Skinner
Age: 36
Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Greene, Chenango, New York
Street: Hogback Road
House Number: Farm
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1911
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: May Skinner
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Native Tongue: English
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Farmer
Industry: Dairy
Employment Field: Own Account
Home Free or Mortgaged: Mortgaged
Naturalization Status: Alien
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Skinner 36
May Skinner 35
[25]
Gwendolen M Skinner 10 b England
Betty F Skinner 5
Jack B Skinner 2
[2 2/12]


May's immigration year is 1912.

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jul 2015 20:25

Name: Gwendoline Mary Skinner
Arrival Date: 12 Jul 1911
Birth Date: abt 1909
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Kent
Age: 1 Years 10 Months
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Southampton
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Oceanic
Search Ship Database: Search for the Oceanic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Emigrating with her mother, Daisy Mary.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jul 2015 20:26

John Skinner
in the New York, State Census, 1925

Name: John Skinner
Birth Date: abt 1884
Birth Place: England
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Residence Place: Greene, Chenango
Relationship: Head
Colour or Race: White
Number of Years in US: 13
Assembly District: 01
Line Number: 11
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Skinner 41
May Skinner 41
Betty A Skinner 11
Jack Skinner 07
Cether Skinner 02 - Heather on image

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jul 2015 20:28

Name: Daisy M Skinner
Birth Date: 1886
Death Date: 1911
Cemetery: Sylvan Lawn Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Greene, Chenango County, New York, USA


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=95511317&ref=acom



So Daisy died and John seems to have married May.
Perhaps May initially went over to help with Gwendoline?

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jul 2015 20:31

1915 NEW YORK STATE CENSUS

Name: John Skinner
Birth Year: abt 1885
Birth Place: England
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Residence Place: Greene, Chenango
Relationship: Head
Colour or Race: White
Number of Years in US: 4
Assembly District: 01
House Number: 2
Line Number: 38
Page Number: 04
Household Members:
Name Age
John Skinner 30
Mary Skinner 30
Jacob Skinner 23 brother
Geneveive J Skinner 5 (should read Gwendoline)
Pelly Skinner 1 (should read Betty)

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jul 2015 11:06

They've moved by 1930.

Name: May Skinner
Birth Year: abt 1885
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Homemaker?: Yes
Home in 1930: Vineland, Cumberland, New Jersey
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Pearl St.
House Number in Cities or Towns: 424
Dwelling Number: 35
Family Number: 23
Home Owned or Rented: Rented
Home Value: 25
Radio Set: Yes
Lives on Farm: No
Age at First Marriage: 29
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Language Spoken: English
Immigration Year: 1912
Naturalization: Alien
Able to Speak English: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
May Skinner 45
Betty F Skinner 16
Jack B Skinner 12
Heather Skinner 7


She married when she was 29.


and is now divorced.



1940 United States Federal Census

Name: May Skinner
Respondent: Yes
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Divorced
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Bridgeton, Cumberland, New Jersey
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
House Number: Apt 3
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Rural, Cumberland, New Jersey
Residence in 1935: Rural, Cumberland, New Jersey
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 7A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 13
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 8
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 7th grade
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
May Skinner 55


alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jul 2015 11:12

This looks like her.



in the U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014



Name: May Skinner
SSN: 138-42-1672
Last Residence:
08360 Vineland, Cumberland, New Jersey, USA
BORN: 1 May 1884
Died: Feb 1974
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (1965)


Name: May Beale Skinner
Birth Date: 1884
Death Date: 1974
Cemetery: Marlboro Seventh Day Baptist Church Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Marlboro, Cumberland County, New Jersey, USA
Has Bio?: N

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=101140865&ref=acom


alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jul 2015 11:24

Jack B. Skinner Sr.

in the United States Obituary Collection



Name of Deceased: Jack B. Skinner Sr.
Age at Death: 88
Death Date: 13 Mar 2006
Obituary Date: 16 Mar 2006
Newspaper Title: Daily Star, The
Newspaper Location: Oneonta, NY, US
Birth Date: 30 Oct 1917
Locations Mentioned in Obituary: Unadilla, Unadilla
Otego, Otego
Sidney, Sidney
Greene,
Houston, TX, TX Houston
Oxford,
Oneonta, NY, NY Oneonta
Hickory, NC, NC Hickory
Other Persons Mentioned in Obituary: Gwen Church
Ronald
Chase Skinner
Annette Skinner Jr.
Jeffrey Newman
Heather Townsend
May Skinner (Beale)
Linda Skinner
Marguerite Pollard (Polly)
Elizabeth
Katherine
Polly Skinner
Harry Smith
Betty Vastano
John Siewers
El Campo
Margaret






U.S., Find A Grave Index,

Name: Jack B Skinner Sr
Birth Date: 1917
Death Date: 2006
Cemetery: Sylvan Lawn Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Greene, Chenango County, New York, USA
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Marguerite A Skinner
..



U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014


Name: Jack B. Skinner
Last Residence:
13849 Unadilla, Otsego, New York
BORN: 30 Oct 1917
Died: 13 Mar 2006
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jul 2015 11:30

Possible death for Heather?

Name: Heather Townsend
Last Residence:
77043 Houston, Harris, Texas
BORN: 8 Aug 1922
Last Benefit: 77043, Houston, Harris, Texas
Died: 17 May 2005
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (Before 1951)

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jul 2015 11:42

Betty F. Vastano

in the United States Obituary Collection



Name of Deceased: Betty F. Vastano
Age at Death: 90
Death Date: 14 Jul 2004
Obituary Date: 18 Jul 2004
Newspaper Title: Daily Journal, The
Newspaper Location: Vineland, NJ, US
Birth Date: abt 1914
Locations Mentioned in Obituary: TX, TX
New York, New York New York
Vineland, NJ, NJ Vineland
Greene, NY, NY Greene
Other Persons Mentioned in Obituary: Lisa
Richard Vastano
John Schossig (Vastano)
John Vastano
Donald Vastano
Johnny Schossig
Heather Townsend (Skinner)
Jack Vastano
Dominick Vastano



Name: Betty F. Vastano
SSN: 074-30-0745
Last Residence:
08360 Vineland, Cumberland, New Jersey, USA
BORN: 2 Feb 1914
Died: 14 Jul 2004
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (1954-1955)

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jul 2015 11:49

Gwendolin and May returning to US after a stay in UK.

Gwendoline Skinner

in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957


Name: Gwendoline Skinner
Arrival Date: 13 Oct 1921
Birth Date: abt 1912
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: kolvenden
Age: 9
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Olympic


They had been staying with May's mother, Mrs Walter at 51 New Town, Ashford.

There is written that Gwendoline 'claims to have been born in the US.'




Name: Mary J Beale
Spouse Surname: Walter
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1918
Registration district: East Ashford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 2184
Find Spouse: William H Walter


Mary Jane would have been nearly 70 here, if it is correct.




Her death?

Name: Mary J Walter
Birth Date: abt 1849
Date of Registration: Mar 1935
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: West Ashford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1327


and his?

Kent Burials Transcription

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First name(s) William Henry
Last name Walter
Birth year 1851
Burial year 1933
Burial date 16 Sep 1933
Age at death 82
Place Willesborough
Residence Gill House Of This Parish
County Kent
Country England
Record source Willesborough burials 1538-1937



Well, his probate has him of 51 New Town, Willesborough nr Ashford. Probate to Stephen Francis Walter, accountant and Charles Hughes, retired clerk. £72 13s




alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jul 2015 12:10

Name: William Henry Walter
Age in 1911: 59
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Dover, Kent
Civil Parish: Willesborough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 51 New Town, Willesborough, Ashford, Kent
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Machinist Driller
Registration district: East Ashford
Registration District Number: 56
Sub-registration district: Brabourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 142
Piece: 4284
Household Members:
Name Age
William Henry Walter 59
Sarah Elizabeth Walter 66