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Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 23 Jun 2015 00:42

can someone find who her parents are please she was born 22 Apr 1911 in Neath Glamorgan Wales

or does the date fall short for finding mother surname

thank you

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Jun 2015 02:16

Mother's maiden name only on births index after 1911..

You may need to buy the certificate

Births Jun 1911
Clement Margaret L - Neath 11a 1026

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Jun 2015 02:20

and the 1911 census was taken on Sunday 2 April, 1911 so no luck there either..sorry

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Jun 2015 02:28

No parents given on famiysearch

Margaret Louisa Clement
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 31 May 1911
Event Place: Aberavon, Glamorganshire, Wales

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Jun 2015 06:02

Did she have siblings born after 1911 if so their ref will show the mmn

Or any born pre 1911 so you can look for them on the census

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 23 Jun 2015 06:43

Name Margaret Louise Clement
Baptised 31 May 1911 Aberavon
Father Thomas Samuel Clement occ Blacksmith
Mother Elizabeth
Abode Sandfields, Aberavon

Source Parish Records image

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 23 Jun 2015 06:51

Marriage 7 May 1910 Aberavon
Groom Thomas Samuel Clement occ Blacksmith
Age 24
Father Samuel Clement occ Engine Driver
Address 27 St Mary's St Aberavon
Bride Elizabeth Routliff
Age 20
Father Elias Routliff occ Tinworker (looks like)
Address 13 Pembroke Terrace Aberavon
Witnesses George Frederick Harvey, Thomas Williams & Eva Gwendoline Clement

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 23 Jun 2015 07:07

1911 census
Thomas Clement
Born Aberavon Glamorgan
Age 25
Occupation Striker for Blacksmith
Married 1 Year
Elizabeth Clement (wife)
Born Aberavon
Age 21
Address 7 Sandfields Rd Aberavon

Also
Thomas Routliff (brother in law)
Born Aberavon
Age 18
Occupation Coacher (?) In Tin works

Arthur Routliff (brother in law)
Born Aberavon
Age 16
Occupation Assisting Tin Man

Gee

Gee Report 23 Jun 2015 07:08


Thomas Clement

Age in 1911:25

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1886

Relation to Head:Head

Gender:Male

Birth Place:Aberavon, Glamorganshire, Wales

Civil Parish:Aberavon

County/Island:Glamorgan

Country:Wales

Street address:7 Sandfield Road Aberavon

Marital Status:Married

Years Married:1

Estimated Marriage Year:1910

Occupation:Striker For Black Smith

Registration district:Neath

Registration District Number:592

Sub-registration district:Margam

ED, institution, or vessel:06
Household schedule number:7
Piece:32599

Household Members:


Thomas Clement 25
Elizebth Clement 21
Thomas Routliff 18
Arthur Routliff 16

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 23 Jun 2015 07:31

Baptism
Thomas Samuel Clement
Date 10 March 1886
Father Samuel Clement occ Smith
Mother Margaret
Abode Aberavon

Gee

Gee Report 23 Jun 2015 07:36

1901


Name:Edith Routliff

Age in 1901:12

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1889

Relation:Daughter (Child)

Father's name:Elias Routliff

Mother's name:Elizabeth L Routliff

Gender:Female

Where born:Aberavon, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish:Aberavon

Ecclesiastical parish:Aberavon St Mary

Town:Aberavon

County/Island:Glamorgan

Country:Wales
Registration district:Neath

Sub-registration district:Margam

ED, institution, or vessel:16

Household schedule number:272
Piece:5053
Folio:183

Page Number:45

Household Members:


Elias Routliff 33
Elizabeth L Routliff 33
Edith Routliff 12
Elizabeth Routliff 11
William Routliff 9
Thomas Routliff 8
Arthur Routliff 6
Isaac Routliff 4
Sydney G Routliff 7 Months
Mary Routliff 2

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 23 Jun 2015 07:47

Baptism
Elizabeth Routliff
Date 6 Oct 1899
Father Elias Routliff occ Tinplate Worker
Mother Elizabeth
Abode Aberavon

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 23 Jun 2015 08:08

Possible Marriage
Mar 1888
Jones Elizabeth Neath 11a 739
Manchip Elizabeth Louisa Neath 11a 739
Rees William Neath 11a 739
Routliff Elias Neath 11a 739

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Jun 2015 08:17

Elias Routliff in the 1911 Wales Census
Name:Elias Routliff
Age in 1911:43
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1868
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Calmstock, Devon, England
Civil Parish:Aberavon
County/Island:Glamorgan
Country:Wales
Street address:59 Cwmavon Road
Marital Status:Married
Years Married:23
Estimated Marriage Year:1888
Occupation:Tinplate Shearer
Registration district:Neath
Sub-registration district:Margam



Elias Routliff Head 1868 43 Male Married Tinplate Shearer Calmstock Devon England 59 Cwmavon Road
Elizabeth Louisa Routliff Wife 1868 43 Female Married Landone Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road
Isaac Routliff Son 1897 14 Male Labourer In Tinplate Works Aberavon Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road
Mary Routliff Daughter 1899 12 Female School Aberavon Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road
Sidney George Routliff Son 1901 10 Male School Aberavon Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road
Violete Evelyn Routliff Daughter 1902 9 Female School Aberavon Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road
Christrina May Routliff Daughter 1907 4 Female Aberavon Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road
Hubert Routliff Son 1909 2 Male Aberavon Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road

Married 23 years.......11 children born and living

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 23 Jun 2015 08:24

Marriage 20 Jun 1880 Aberavon
Samuel Clement occ Blacksmith
Age 22
Father William Clement occ Labourer
Bride Margaret Morcombe
Age 22
Father John Morcombe occ Pilot
Witnesses John Clement & Annie Theresa (looks like) Clement
Both living Aberavon

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Jun 2015 08:31

Elias Routliff in the 1871 England Census
Name:Elias Routliff
Age:4
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1867
Relation:Son (Child)
Father's name:William Routliff
Mother's name:Mary Routliff
Gender:Male
Where born:Culmstock, Devon, England
Civil Parish:Culmstock
Ecclesiastical parish:Exeter
Town:Culmstock
County/Island:Devon
Country:England
Registration district:Wellington
Sub-registration district:Culmstock


William Routliff Head 43 1828 Male Sumbridge Devon (Blacksmith)
Mary Routliff Wife 44 1827 Female Molland Devon
Thomas Routliff Son 8 1863 Male Hawkridge Somerset
Elias Routliff Son 4 1867 Male Culmstock Devon
Henry Routliff Brother-in-law 13 1858 Male Sumbridge Devon
Sidney Wood Servant 19 1852 Male Hemyock Devon


Elias Routliff in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Elias Routliff
Registration Year:1867
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Wellington
Inferred County:Somerset
Volume:5c
Page:371


Elias Routliff in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Elias Routliff
Birth Date:abt 1868
Date of Registration:Mar 1925
Age at Death:57
Registration district:Neath
Inferred County:Glamorganshire
Volume:11a
Page:1062



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Jun 2015 09:15

No birth showing for Elizabeth Louisa Manchip.

But there is for.....Elizabeth Louisa Manship.......

Elizabeth Louisa Manship in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Elizabeth Louisa Manship
Registration Year:1867
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district:Swansea
Inferred County:Glamorgan
Volume:11a
Page:541

I can't see her as Manchip or Manship on any census records before her marriage.



rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Jun 2015 12:15

Maybe?

1871

Lewisa Manship
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: Abraham Manship
Mother's name: Sarah Manship
Gender: Female
Where born: Glamorganshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llangyfelach
Town: Clase Lower
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Swansea
Sub-registration district: Llangyfelach
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 73
Piece: 5445
Folio: 69
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Abraham Manship 26, Occ. Copperman
Sarah Manship 26
Lewisa Manship 3
Sarah Jane Manship 2
Elizabeth Manship 2 weeks

All born Glamorgan

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Jun 2015 12:23

1891

Abraham Manship
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Terah Manship
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Margam
Ecclesiastical parish: Margam
Town: Tai bach
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Neath
Sub registration district: Margam
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4457
Folio: 48
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Abraham Manship 46
Terah Manship 45
Terah J Manship 22
Elizabeth Manship 20
Margret Manship 18
Susana Manship 15
Josie Manship 10
Eliza Manship 8
Annie Manship 5
Miriam Manship 2

Both Terahs look like Sarah on the image.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Jun 2015 12:37

1881

Abraham Mandrip
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Mandrip
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Margam
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 7 Greenfield No 2
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration district: Neath
Sub registration district: Margam
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5334
Folio: 44
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Abraham Mandrip 36
Sarah Mandrip 33
Lucy Mandrip 14
Sarah J. Mandrip 12
Margaret Mandrip 7
Susanah Mandrip 5
Mary Mandrip 3
Isaack Mandrip
Samuel Mandrip 28
Elizabeth Mandrip