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If Susan is correct in thinking Alan had been married before, this might be a possibility, although not in London area:

Marriages Sep 1941 (>99%)
BAIN Alan M Whitehouse Birmingham 6d 693
Whitehouse Irene M Bain Birmingham 6d 693

Three possible children of the marriage - a son 1935 (???) and daughter 1942, both in Birmingham, and a daughter in Brentford in 1946.


Of course, any such marriage could have him listed simply as Alan Bain, in which case there are several more possibilities.

Looks good ArgyllGran :-)

????
Per FreeBMD:


Michael Bain, mms Caughlin, born Surrey N, in 1948.

Remarriage for Helge Hansen - just after Elsie began living with Alan (per the ER's above) , using the surname Bain.


Helge C Hansen

in the England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Helge C Hansen
Spouse Surname: Clemensen
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1950
Registration district: Eton
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 741

Helge Clifford Hansen
Birth Date: 1 Jul 1919
Date of Registration: May 2006
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Peterborough
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: -1
Page: -1
Register Number: E3G
District and Subdistrict: 335/1E
Entry Number: 174

As you are so sure he fathered a son named Michael, can you tell us when the child was born?

Have you obtained a copy of Alan's death cert, for details of the informant?

Are you in touch with any other family members?

If you are related to these people, are they in your GR tree?

ADDED........

NO they aren't, but Alan is in FOUR trees.......................as are his siblings. And his father is in at least THREE

Try to get in touch with the 'owners' - search trees should be the first place to look when trying to find living people through this site

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Bain Alec A W Bate W.Ham 4a 66


Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
Bain Alan M Bate W. Ham 4a 13


Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
BAIN Mabel F W. Ham 4a 336




1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
49 West Down Road Leyton, Low Leyton, Essex, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Alec George Bain Head Married Male Arc Lamp Trimmer 22 1889 Kent Greenwich Transcription
Ellen Jane Bain Wife Married Female - 22 1889 Kent Greenwich Transcription
Mabel Bain Daughter Married Female - 0 1911 Essex Leyton Transcription

On the 1978 marriage put earlier for Alan and Elsie- Elsie is also listed under the Surname Hansen

Her previous marriage?
Name: Elsie F Caughlin
Spouse: Helge C Hansen
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1944
Registration district: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 507

One child born: Peter G- born 1945, died 1947

The following information is on a tree on My Heritiage:

elsie florence bain (born cairns), 1917-1991
elsie florence bain (born cairns) was born on month day 1917, to francis thomas cairns and Ethel Florence cairns (born Bridges).
Ethel was born on February 6 1893.
elsie married alan marshall bain.
alan was born on October 5 1917.
His occupation was security guard.
They had 2 sons: michael bain and one other child.
elsie passed away on month day 1991, at age 73.

http://www.myheritage.com/names/elsie_bain

alecs wife was doris what were alans think he had 2 wives one had a son micheal

thank you

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Bain Alec A W Bate W.Ham 4a 66


Alec's wife was not Elsie:

Marriages Sep 1939 (>99%)
Bain Alec A W Lee W.Ham 4a 164
Lee Doris L Bain W.Ham 4a 164

alan had a brother alec sister mabel

thank you i think alan was married twice

There is a birth for Michael A Bain with mother's maiden name Bain
prior to 1978

Alan would have been 61 at marriage.
Elsie was already Bain
Maybe she was a widow of one of his brothers/ cousins


Name:Alan M Bain

Spouse :Elsie F Bain

Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1978

Registration district:Ealing
Inferred County:Middlesex

Volume Number:12
Page Number:0232

Alan had a sister, Mabel F Bain, born 1910 West Ham, per 1911 census & FreeBMD.
She probably married Charles Barker in 1931, West Ham.

Very long shot - absolutely no reason to think this is the same person, except for middle initial, and YOB would fit:

EDIT: probably correct death, in light of later posts below.


Elsie Florence Bain
in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Elsie Florence Bain
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1917
Date of Registration: Apr 1991
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 2016

There's the marriage in Ealing in 1978 of an Elsie F Bain to an Alan M Bain.
(On Ancestry, not FreeBMD.)

Too late for the ER above, though.
Perhaps she took his name, but didn't marry until later?

Electoral Roll

Name: Alan M Bain
Year: 1965
County or Borough: Ealing
Ward or Division/Constituency: Acton
Street address: 105 Avenue Road
Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/2984

105 Avenue Road – living with
Alec G Bain
Ellen J Bain
Elsie F Bain

Presumably the first 2 are his parents

So is Elsie a sister/other relative or his wife

The earliest ER he is shown on in Ealing is 1949, with the same 3 people