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So the 1906 birth is probably not him - father a telephone linesman.

Would have to say he wasn't born Scotland - or at least not as Hewitson

Jude

Hi all, he put his father's occupation as cabinet maker.
Thanks
Julie

Thanks, Jude.
It was always a long shot!

If records are in the name Black, we have little hope of tracking him down.

AG - I downloaded the marriage certificate and have pm'd it along with a 1906 birth for Francis Hewitson

If 1904 is correct birth on his marriage certificate then we are looking on SP at the wrong Francis and Francis

Jude

Did Thomas / Francis give an occupation for his deceased father on the marriage certificate please?

Death of the mother of the Francis b 1906. So she obviously was only married the once.

1949 HEWITSON MARGARET WALLACE F 69 GOVAN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/17 0259


Maybe the father Francis?

1969 HEWITSON FRANCIS Not Permissible M 90 GLASGOW GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 645/02 0187 No Image

Death of that possible brother (also just in case relevant!):

1973 HEWITSON WILLIAM WALLACE \MMS: Not Permissible M 65 GLASGOW, MARTHA ST GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 613/00 0904


At a guess, this would be his parents' marriage:

1903 HEWITSON FRANCIS
WALLACE MARGARET
DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0416

No sign of that Francis having died before 1939 - at least not in Scotland, with the name Hewitson.

In case it proves relevant, this may well be a brother of the Francis born 1906

1908 HEWITSON WILLIAM WALLACE M DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/04 0424

Julie I will pm the stuff I downloaded off Scotlands people - it is probably relevant

Jude

My man used to talk about an aunt Annie so I looked her up she was born 14 years after him and was called black.I found her in the marriages, as I knew her married name.He was still in the Navy when my man was growing up.On his marriage certificate it says he was an able seaman, mercantile marine.I thought about adoption.Will keep on digging.
Thanks for the info i will look into it. Keep you posted.

Julie do you know if your grandad had any siblings?

If he was brought up with the name Thomas Black, then found out he had another name, then have you considered the possibility that he was adopted?
or maybe
He was illegitimate and was brought up by his mother's parents, then maybe his father either found out about him, or decided to acknowledge him and so was able to take his name?

Just a couple of ideas.

Maybe relevant ????

First name(s) THOMAS
Last name Black
Birth year 1904
Birth place Glasgow
Birth county Lanarkshire
Place GLASGOW
Discharge number 1091980
Identity certificate number -
Card type CR1
Date range 1921-1941
Series BT349
Piece number -
Record set Merchant Navy Seamen
Category Education & work
Subcategory Merchant navy & maritime
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.......name Thomas Black, born 1904 in Scotland and was in the Merchant Navy?

EDIT:- more info from original

Dated stamp of MMO:- 06 Nov 1923

Rating:- Galley Boy

Health Insce Number:- 247125

Unemployment Insce Number :- 116701 (above is marked what looks to be - Bradford)

Hi I got my grandparents marriage certificate today.still none the wiser!. My grandad is Thomas Black formerly known as Francis Hewitson, His father is Frank Black otherwise Francis Hewitson. He was listed as deceased on my grandads marriage certificate. My grandad was born in 1904 and married in 1939. It is confusing as he was known as Hewitson when he died in 1967.

Hi, thank you all for helping. My grandad did marry Doris Harris,I only ever knew her surname till now. He also married again to my step grandma. Will I be able to get a marriage certificate for him if I go to Bradford register office?. I will go sometime this week. Thanks again I will let you know.
Julie

.???

Franciscus Hewitson
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 9 Oct 1904
Baptism Place: St. Joseph's, Stanley (near Beamish), Durham, England
Father: Francisci Hewitson
Mother: Birgittae Toole Hewitson
FHL Film Number: 2082454
Reference ID: v 2 p 74

Birth? Dec Qtr 1904

Francis Hewitson 1904 Lanchester 10a 390

Used a few spare credits on SP.

If the Glasgow birth is correct father is Francis Hewitson and mother Margaret Wallace.

And from their marriage his father was Francis also.

No Blacks evident

Julie please come back and let us know - I can pm you these certs if they are relevant. As MC says, do you have his marriage certificate. If not, it would be a good starting point

Jude

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Street North Street
Parish Scoonie
Town Leven
City
County Fife
Country Scotland
Ecclesiastical District Scoonie
Enumeration District
Municipal Ward
Parliamentary Borough East Fife
Registration District Scoonie
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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Person 1

First Name Francis
Last Name Black
Birth Year 1899
Age 2
Birth Town Dundee
Birth County Forfarshire (Angus)
Birth Place Scotland
Relationship To Head of Household Son
Gender Male
Occupation
Condition
Archive Reference RG13
Folio
Page
Piece Number

Person 2

First Name Jeannie
Last Name Black
Birth Year 1894
Age 7
Birth Town Dundee
Birth County Forfarshire (Angus)
Birth Place Scotland
Relationship To Head of Household Daughter
Gender Female
Occupation Scholar
Condition
Archive Reference RG13
Folio
Page
Piece Number

Person 3

First Name Marjory
Last Name Black
Birth Year 1868
Age 33
Birth Town Lochee
Birth County Forfarshire (Angus)
Birth Place Scotland
Relationship To Head of Household Head
Gender Female
Occupation Reservist's Wife
Condition Married
Archive Reference RG13
Folio
Page
Piece Number

Person 4

First Name William
Last Name Black
Birth Year 1895
Age 6
Birth Town Dundee
Birth County Forfarshire (Angus)
Birth Place Scotland
Relationship To Head of Household Son
Gender Male
Occupation Scholar
Condition
Archive Reference RG13
Folio
Page
Piece Number


POSSIBLE ?

Nearest birth on Scotlandspeople

1906 HEWITSON FRANCIS M DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 1292

possible death


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007


First Name FRANCIS
Last Name HEWITSON
Gender Unknown
Year 1967
Birth Year 1904
Birth Month
Birth Day
District BRADFORD
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 2B
Event Quarter 4
District Number
Page 134
Line Number 84
Entry Number
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
DOR
Category Births, Marriages & Deaths
Collections from Great Britain