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theresa

theresa Report 1 Jun 2015 16:09

I'm having problems finding the marriage of George William morley born 1877 in Edwinstowe. Also can't see him in the 1911 census he had two children vera born in 1909 and George born 1911. thanks

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 1 Jun 2015 16:17

Where were the children born?

Who was their mother?

What proof do you have that George William was their father?

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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Jun 2015 16:18

AS you didn't post it, is this the census you mean?

Married 4 yrs, one child, one child still living.

Name: George Morley
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Edwinstowe
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: Edwinstowe Newark Notts
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Blacksmith
Registration district: Southwell
Registration District Number: 431
Sub-registration district: Kneesall

Household Members:
Name Age
George Morley 33 c1878 Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, England Blacksmith
Lally Morley 34 c 1879 Cawthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Vera Morley 2 c1909 Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, England
Sarah Thurman 30 Nurse

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Eayres (Northants/London) Walker (Surrey) Loveday (Northants) Moore (Tipperary)

safc

safc Report 1 Jun 2015 16:18


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Town Street, Edwinstowe, Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Morley Head Married Male 27 1854 Blacksmith Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, England
Transcription
Selina Morley Wife Married Female 25 1856 - Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, England
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George W Morley Son Single Male 4 1877 - Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, England
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Albert Morley Son Single Male 1 1880 - Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, England

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theresa

theresa Report 1 Jun 2015 16:20

We think the children were born in Edwinstowe nottinghamshire. Ive got the wifes name as lillian but don't know how I came up with that !

safc

safc Report 1 Jun 2015 16:21

from my past


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Manvers Cottages Edwinstowe Newark, Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
George Horley Head Married Male 33 1878 Edwinstowe Notts Blacksmith
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Laily Horley Wife Married Female 34 1877 Cawthorpe Lincs -
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Vera Horley Daughter Single Female 2 1909 Edwinstowe C Notts -
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Sarah Thurman Nurse Single Female 30 1881 Hawksworth Notts Nurse

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 1 Jun 2015 16:22

Look for birth info for the children using freebmd

No need to guess............

And surely that's the right 1911 census above?

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 1 Jun 2015 16:26


Births Jun 1909 (>99%)
Morley Vera Mary Southwell 7b 530



Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
MORLEY George P Southwell 7b 525

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jun 2015 16:29

Maybe Lally was a nickname

This birth certificate will give mums name

Name: Vera Mary Morley
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Southwell
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 530

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jun 2015 16:32

Born before the mmn was added to the GRO. record,

Births Jun 1911
MORLEY George P Southwell 7b 525

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 1 Jun 2015 16:33

Cawthorpe came under BOURN district

Suggestion ONLY. A child's birth cert would be your best bet

Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)

BLOODWORTH John Henry Bourne 7a 768
BLOODWORTH John Hewby Bourne 7a 768
MORLEY George William Bourn 7a 768
WALTON Elizabeth Lillian Bourn 7a 768

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theresa

theresa Report 1 Jun 2015 16:39

Thank you for the 1911 census for some reason they are written down as Horley

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 1 Jun 2015 16:45

It pays always to check images.......

The wife's first name is Laily on the original.............as per safc's post

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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Jun 2015 16:45

Jacqueline's suggestion looks quite good as middle name Lilian.

Unfortunately the other bride is missing from the page.

I found this couple in the 1911 census living in Bourne:

Name: John Bloodworth
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bourne, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Bourne
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: Eastgate Bourne Len'c
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Ptalelager On Railway
Registration district: Bourne
Registration District Number: 412
Sub-registration district: Bourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 19459
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bloodworth 26
Eliza Bloodworth 23
Burgoyne Bloodworth 2

They had been married 4 years. No idea if Eliza is short for Elizabeth Lillian nee Walton, or not...

No births after 1911 for Bloodworth mmn Walton.

No Morley births MMN Walton in Southwell, but some in Leeds.

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Gritty

Gritty Report 1 Jun 2015 16:46

I think that's just a transcription error on the 1911 Theresa- if you look at the original the M of Morley looks the same as the M of Married.

It is transcribed as Morley on Ancestry.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 1 Jun 2015 16:51

No Bloodworth/Walton births in Bourn

Equally, no Morley/Walton births in Southwell

Suggestion for the missing bride...................with page number wrongly transcribed.

Certainly 'outside the range' for Bourn


Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)

BROWN Eliza Ann F Bourn 7a 708

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 1 Jun 2015 16:52

BLOODWORTH ELIZA ANN F 1887 1974 1974 Deaths & burials Bourne, Lincolnshire, England

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 1 Jun 2015 16:53

Cawthorpe ( where the wife was born) is in BOURN district as already stated

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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Jun 2015 16:54

HA!!!!

FMP Has for the 1907 marriage:

GEORGE WILLIAM MORLEY married one of these people
ELIZABETH LILLIAN WALTON, ELIZA ANN BROWN

Going by census 1911, looks like John Bloodworth married Eliza, so Elizabeth Lilian is stiill on for bride of George, and in 'Lally's birthplace, as Jacqueline pointed out.

EDIT: OK was typing as Jacqueline was posting.....

At least I was first with the 1911 census ;-)

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 1 Jun 2015 17:00

Slight variation, but..................

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bourn, Lincolnshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Walton Head Married Male 44 1847 General Dealer Bourn, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Jane Walton Wife Married Female 36 1855 - London, England Transcription
Elizabeth Walton Daughter Single Female 14 1877 Dressmaker Hawthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
William Joseph Walton Son Single Male 12 1879 Scholar Hawthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
George Walton Son Single Male 9 1882 Scholar Hawthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Alfred Emmanuel Walton Son Single Male 7 1884 Scholar Hawthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Herbert Walton Son Single Male 4 1887 - Hawthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Frank Walton Son Single Male 1 1890 - Hawthorpe, Lincolnshire, England



AND
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
?, Bourn, Lincolnshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Walton Head Married Male 35 1846 Hawker Of Small Wears Dyke, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Jane Walton Wife Married Female 27 1854 - London, Middlesex, England Transcription
James E Walton Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Cawthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Elizabeth Walton Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Cawthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
William J Walton Son Single Male 2 1879 - Cawthorpe, Lincolnshire, England


However..............NO second name on birth

First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name WALTON
Birth year 1876
Birth quarter 4
District BOURNE
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Volume 7A
Page 352

A child's birth cert is essential, I would say

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